When will we know who won (in UK time)?

[minestrone]

My cleaner just asked me if he is going to do the job the coloured man does.

[OwlHoot]

I think those of us that thought Clinton was a shoe in need to get out of our own closed society and start to understand just how tulip the rest of the world are having it right now and why we are getting these swings of anti establishment voting. ..

Absolutely, Been saying it here for ages. Most people smugly assume that everyone is as rational and benevolent as them.

But you ("one") must think like them rather than blithely assuming they should be, and thus are, thinking like you!

Also, for people who rightly see no prospects for themselves it is actually unfortunately rational to want to stir the pot and disrupt things, however destructive that may be, because the results may give them opportunities they would otherwise lack while everything is obviously sewn up, and ever more tightly so, for the benefit of the prosperous.

Not saying I'm in the stirrer camp, far from it. But just pointing out yet again how many people have come to think, as Trump's victory makes clear.

[vetran]

Also the thing that really concerns me is as world policy edges closer to the futhest right wing parties I see fewer and fewer people wearing poppies and actually bothering to understand what caused the last two world wars...

You mean like the Kaiser being related to the Queen or the legally elected ruler of Germany being a nut case?

[mudskipper]

Interesting read here

How Half Of America Lost Its F**king Mind

[minestrone]

Watching Alex Salmond nearly in tears there was one of the highlights of my year.

[vetran]

For the record USA....

Today is 9/11.

[bobspud]

You mean like the Kaiser being related to the Queen or the legally elected ruler of Germany being a nut case?

Anything that pushes extremism further into the mainstream is dangerous. Now we have extremely unstable people running most of the Middle East, North Korea, Russia and now the US.

Not to mention that Europe is now seeing how short sighted it was to let Christ knows who into Europe last year...

This is starting to look like a team America script

[vetran]

Breaking News: Sturgeon to sue Congress "The SNP will not stand by and watch Trump elected, against the will of Scotland - we did not vote for this outcome!"

[vetran]

They say that when America sneezes the rest of the world catches a cold. Well today America trumped and the rest of the world has already followed through.

[vetran]

Hopefully Trump will build a wall around the Kardashian house so none of them can get out.