New Macbook Pro

[bobspud]

Very good point, cheers, we have only just started to look / think about it actually, the free edition is fairly new to me.

I used to spend hours faffing about with VMware I gave up because as others have said the memory needs get stupid. I decided that it was a good idea to learn a new skill as well. Amazon for the win I don't even have VMware on my mac anymore.

[MrMarkyMark]

Have you heard of Microsoft Azure? or AWS? if you want to build things like that its far easier to go use a cloud provider these days. In fact there will probably be a set of AMI's to test with already...

Very good point, cheers, we have only just started to look / think about it actually, the free edition is fairly new to me.

[bobspud]

Especially if you run VMs. I'm looking at setting up one of these at some stage:-

https://go.sap.com/uk/developer/topi...a-express.html

Have you heard of Microsoft Azure? or AWS? if you want to build things like that its far easier to go use a cloud provider these days. In fact there will probably be a set of AMI's to test with already...

[scooterscot]

Heck I've seen people commenting that 16gb isn't enough for running chrome they way they browser the internet but understandable

Seems to me that software is poorly written.

[cojak]

Sitting in my office with my 2011 MBP, 17" non-reflective screen, 8GB RAM, 500GB SSD. Only used for photo/video editing.

If I was going to sell it, I'd also sell my Dell desktop (that's pushing 10 years old) and buy an iMac.

I'm using your MBP!!

The only reason I'm think of getting a new one is I want a MBP for another 6 years and sadly I think that this will probably only another 2-3 years.

[eek]

The arguments over architecture are thin if you ask me. If the BUS speed between CPU and SSD versus RAM are similar, then who gives a monkeys? It is likely one day architecture will cease to exist in its current form and just be all on a single chip.

Even still 16GB is huge. Were I running a monte Carlo simulation of up to 10,000 iterations it would be done in minutes compared to a machine I used to leave running overnight at the client's workplace. If I'm running virtual machine alongside analysis I've got my iMac, the laptop is only really for use when travelling to customers.

The thing is that there is an impact which is why those of us on here that need the memory already know that that Macbook is fundamentally flawed for our needs. Heck I've seen people commenting that 16gb isn't enough for running chrome they way they browser the internet but understandable

[scooterscot]

The arguments over architecture are thin if you ask me. If the BUS speed between CPU and SSD versus RAM are similar, then who gives a monkeys? It is likely one day architecture will cease to exist in its current form and just be all on a single chip.

Even still 16GB is huge. Were I running a monte Carlo simulation of up to 10,000 iterations it would be done in minutes compared to a machine I used to leave running overnight at the client's workplace. If I'm running virtual machine alongside analysis I've got my iMac, the laptop is only really for use when travelling to customers.

[MrMarkyMark]

Yep an SSD does hide most speed issues on computers. The NVME card on here is 3 times faster than the SSD drive and I still need the memory - I mean part of it is to be able to state my machine is 48gb/ 1tb/512gb (which lets be honest is what I lot of apple people would buy the extra memory for) but it is because there are times when you just need it...

Especially if you run VMs. I'm looking at setting up one of these at some stage:-

https://go.sap.com/uk/developer/topi...a-express.html

[eek]

A lot of manufacturers seem to be thinking that way, I prefer to have the extra RAM, also.
Mine has SSD and 32GB and runs like a dream even though its 3 years old.

Yep an SSD does hide most speed issues on computers. The NVME card on here is 3 times faster than the SSD drive and I still need the memory - I mean part of it is to be able to state my machine is 48gb/ 1tb/512gb (which lets be honest is what I lot of apple people would buy the extra memory for) but it is because there are times when you just need it...

[MrMarkyMark]

Only if you want to buy three of them to every one MacBook...

One of the departments that I know bought a batch of the 11" MacBooks as a test machine they had to reject it in the end over concerns around TPM chips. But the demo machines have lasted the full year in one piece while the first surface came home in a box of bits inside two weeks...

We keep having this eternal rant around "Don't like Apple..." but the facts stand that they are cheaper to buy and own over any other vendor...

Even IBM were surprised by that.

Mine is solely down to my brother as he has used Mac for years doing graphic design, I've had 20 odd years ear bending about it