IndyRef2 : This time it's war!

[scooterscot]

But they all had a vote, THAT is the critical thing. And they will STILL have a vote next time round too

You and your euclidean arguments, forever they go on without making a point.

EU nationals voted 'no' last time to ensure they remained in the EU. Don't think they'll make that mistake again.

[vetran]

You just voted to leave the EU to regain your sovereignty are you now suggesting that Scots too shouldn't democratically decide ?

Of course we need another referendum they don't cost anything do they?
As usual who is going to pay for it?
What are the chances of an out vote?
Why do they think the populace have changed their mind inside 2 years.

[shaunbhoy]

You just voted to leave the EU to regain your sovereignty are you now suggesting that Scots too shouldn't democratically decide ?

They have ALREADY democratically decided to stay.

HTH

[shaunbhoy]

If you breakdown the 55% that voted no you'll find the majority of them were not Scot's. In fact they were mostly EU nationals, and folks from England

But they all had a vote, THAT is the critical thing. And they will STILL have a vote next time round too. Meanwhile there is now zero chance (if there ever was any) of Scotland retaining the pound, plus the amount of oil reserves has continued to dwindle and the price of Oil has plummeted too. All adding up to even less chance of a YES vote than last time.
Looks like you will be able to get that hat-trick of spectacular referendum failures under your belt even sooner than previously imagined scooter.

Honestly, Sturgeon is like the desperate Captain of the Titanic scanning the horizon for an even bigger iceberg to aim at!

[jamesbrown]

Claiming the UK is not in disarray is just deluding yourself. You can say it's silly short-term panic rather than due to fundamental weaknesses, but that doesn't mean it's not happening.

What might be a good metric of disarray? Opinion polling on whether May is doing a good job?

You're in disarray.

[eek]

I suppose if England introduced fees for breathing fresh air Scotland would receive unfair prejudice for not paying. You can't blame other countries for introducing laws at home you don't like.

'Them taking our jobs' is proving to be a falsehood time and time again. Although it sells DM papers...
More often than not it has been shown 'Brits' lack the necessary skills.

That's based on an Aldi in consett - all jobs filled by Eastern Europeans to really annoy those in the council estate

[d000hg]

Claiming the UK is not in disarray is just deluding yourself. You can say it's silly short-term panic rather than due to fundamental weaknesses, but that doesn't mean it's not happening.

[jamesbrown]

What I do see is a government and a country in disarray.

A fraction of 48% of the voting public is in complete disarray, I agree. Bless.

[jamesbrown]

Why is Scottish Independence "hoping for the worst" ?

You just voted to leave the EU to regain your sovereignty are you now suggesting that Scots too shouldn't democratically decide ?

What I do see is a government and a country in disarray.

First, you seem to be incapable of posting anything without a , so it's rather difficult to tell what your emotions might be, but I'm picturing you with a permanently smug complexion. Second, I don't recall you posting anything in the last ~six months that wasn't whining about Brexit or about the financial consequences that you're hoping for.

[d000hg]

Indeed, but surely a companion to these emotional arguments, is the desire to stand on your own two feet? I just don't see how Scotland can claim to do this.

Lots of countries much poorer than Scotland stand on their own two feet. An independent Scotland might not be a prosperous G8 nation but they're still a 1st-world nation.

Apart from anything else, Scotland is 1/3 of the UK by area but only 1/13 the population. They could actually grow all their own food and generate all their own energy if they needed to, we sure as heck cannot. Scotland could probably run 100% on green energy if it had to(?)