It's all our fault

[LondonManc]

Ultimately the responsibility for this mince comes from the equality squad in the government, my issue with the article was that it did not challenge the findings. We desperately need to drop using parity of esteem when dealing with minorities with these issues.

Won't make a jot of difference. It's a cultural thing as NAT has said, especially within the Pakistani communities. They'll close ranks, pay lip service and carry on as they were.

[jbond007]

Won't make a jot of difference. It's a cultural thing as NAT has said, especially within the Pakistani communities. They'll close ranks, pay lip service and carry on as they were.

Absolutely this ! Recent case in point is a MP from Bradford looking into a possible honour killing of one of her constituents back in Pakistan. It seems the MP has been threatened. Many of the family members, while portraying disgust of what happened and endless crocodile tears, probably wanted this done all along since according to them she brought shame to their family.

Having said that the MP herself doesn't have a great track record, being suspended from Labour camp and then allowed back in after apologising.

[DimPrawn]

Absolutely this ! Recent case in point is a MP from Bradford looking into a possible honour killing of one of her constituents back in Pakistan. It seems the MP has been threatened. Many of the family members, while portraying disgust of what happened and endless crocodile tears, probably wanted this done all along since according to them she brought shame to their family.

Having said that the MP herself doesn't have a great track record, being suspended from Labour camp and then allowed back in after apologising.

Labour MP's are all vermin.

[xoggoth]

I think there is a particular problem for Muslim women who can face prejudice because of the veil thing.

We need to concentrate on the real issue, halt the spread of Islamism in our society, not waste our time on tackling minor symptoms. Whether they think so or not, women are the victims of this crap, it's mostly the men who are the problem.

[MrMarkyMark]

It wouldn't surprise me if well educated Muslim women were finding it more difficult to find jobs in the current climate - but the problem for the poorly educated women is far worse and caused, in my view, by a patriarchal, misogynistic application of Islam.

This +1

Seems a great deal of fuss is made about a very small part of our total population.

[Xiathorn]

Seems a great deal of fuss is made about a very small part of our total population.

bike-shed effect

[NotAllThere]

bike-shed effect

What has sex education got to do with it?

[NotAllThere]

I think there is a particular problem for Muslim women who can face prejudice because of the veil thing.

On Swiss TV before they (canton Ticino) voted on whether to ban the burka in public, a Swiss convert was talking about how it made her feel virtuous, was integral to her expression of Islam and it would be sexist and discriminatory to dictate what women can or cannot wear. A woman who is Muslim by birth, who grew up in Saudia Arabia, said that that was utter tulip - the majority of Muslim women hate the burka and the veil, and see it as a symbol of male oppression.

The vote was passed, the ban is in place.