Was: Should May re-introduce grammar schools? Now: immigration

[The_Equalizer]

Anyway the best comprehensive schools actually do and always have separated pupils by ability. The best of the best do it per subject. Also the best comprehensives tend to be in richer areas.

Ah, lovely comprehensives. Isn't that where the good kids are supposed to raise the standards of the duff ones?

[SueEllen]

Ah, lovely comprehensives. Isn't that where the good kids are supposed to raise the standards of the duff ones?

Nope.

You get segregated from the duff ones and in some cases they kick them out.

How do you think certain schools do very well?

[LondonManc]

It's OK in theory but not in practice.

If the cleverest pupils are going on to get degrees then it would and is presumed that unless you go to Grammar school and get a degree you are a failure.

Also as boys mature later than girls so the 11+ is simply not fair on the majority of them. The old Grammar school system ensured that the results were skewed to favour boys, so a girl who got the same result as a boy wouldn't get a Grammar school place even though the boy did. They wouldn't be able to do this any more, so any mixed Grammar school would be end up having too many girls and not enough boys.

Anyway the best comprehensive schools actually do and always have separated pupils by ability. The best of the best do it per subject. Also the best comprehensives tend to be in richer areas.

Utter nonsense. You manage expectations - talk about aptitude rather than ability so that you don't infringe little David's human rights by suggesting he might not be bright enough for university. Why saddle him with debt by getting him two Es at A-Level to get on a History Of Fraggles BA course at what used to be a second rate polytechnic when he could be learning a trade and earning well.

[AtW]

How do you think certain schools do very well?

Bullies like MF make stupid kids study more?

[Bee]

Oh hey... you guys!!!

Stop complaining about my broken English and go back to school.

[SueEllen]

Utter nonsense. You manage expectations - talk about aptitude rather than ability so that you don't infringe little David's human rights by suggesting he might not be bright enough for university. Why saddle him with debt by getting him two Es at A-Level to get on a History Of Fraggles BA course at what used to be a second rate polytechnic when he could be learning a trade and earning well.

In an ideal world you would do this but this isn't an ideal world.

In fact in an ideal world the John Major government wouldn't have got rid of polytechnics who were actually good a producing qualified people from vocational courses that were actually a use to industry but now instead churn out Media Studies and similar graduates.

[SueEllen]

Oh hey... you guys!!!

Stop complaining about my broken English and go back to school.

Oh and you can f*** off!

[mudskipper]

ms#5 was at a grammar.

I think the difference was the culture - at his school the boys wanted to do well and got competitive about it. Compared to his footie team where the clever kids were definitely not cool, I think it was a good thing. A-level results next week, so we'll see!

[AtW]

Oh and you can buzz off, really!

FTFY

[Bee]

Oh and you can f*** off!

Go boil your head.