Merged thread concerning attacks in Europe

[minestrone]

According to the information that I have here for the Bataclan and related bombings none were actually coming from those countries but some used that route after training, however they were still homegrown so no actual new terrorists were using that route:

Salah Abdeslam - Belgian-born French national
Brahim Abdeslam - Belgian-born French national
Omar Ismail Mostefai - French national born to Algerian parents

Bilal Hadfi - 20-year-old French national, born in France but raised in Belguim
Ahmad Al Mohammad - not too sure but suspected to be EU national
Samy Amimour - French national
Abdel Hamid Abaaoud - French
Hasna Aiboulahcen - French

I clearly said disguised as refugees, it was Merkel that said they could walk through unhindered and the "free for all" did result in terrorism.

[minestrone]

She even admits it...

'Terrorists' smuggled into Europe with refugees, Merkel says | Reuters

[darmstadt]

I clearly said disguised as refugees, it was Merkel that said they could walk through unhindered and the "free for all" did result in terrorism.

So did I. I'm pointing out that the majority of the press and people are stating that in this influx of refugees there will be many who are terrorists yet the people who committed the attacks were not refugees, just using them as cover, they were already radicalised and could be deemed as terrorists from the off. As it is, they would have found another way to get in much like the 9/11 bombers and that in in a country where there are no open borders. I mean, how the hell are there so many illegal immigrants, they must be getting in some how?

[vetran]

You are wasting your time.

These people have fear of "others".

They are yet to work out these people live amongst us just like IRA bombers and sympathisers did.

No I have a fear of terrorism which is entirely rational from my viewpoint.

If the people strapping explosives on their chest were called Worthington Smythe and came from Bristol for the last 200 years then your racist slur might have sort of point.

Just like the IRA these people are different to the majority of the British and just as we were suspicious of certain groups then we have to be the same now. Lets hope only your pride is injured by such a revelation rather than innocents.

They hate us, they hate our country and they hate our way of life. They are unfortunately hidden amongst some nice people.

Of course if you want to be of some use you could of course follow & cut off the flow of money to these nutters. That was what worked last time.

Someone is paying for the radicalisation so cut them off at the bank account. Deport the preachers not pay for them to live in comfort.

[darmstadt]

No I have a fear of terrorism which is entirely rational from my viewpoint.

If the people strapping explosives on their chest were called Worthington Smythe and came from Bristol for the last 200 years then your racist slur might have sort of point.

Just like the IRA these people are different to the majority of the British and just as we were suspicious of certain groups then we have to be the same now. Lets hope only your pride is injured by such a revelation rather than innocents.

They hate us, they hate our country and they hate our way of life. They are unfortunately hidden amongst some nice people.

Of course if you want to be of some use you could of course follow & cut off the flow of money to these nutters. That was what worked last time.

Someone is paying for the radicalisation so cut them off at the bank account. Deport the preachers not pay for them to live in comfort.

Have you ever been in a terrorist attack? I have which was carried out by Christians. I've also been in the middle of a military coup, once again carried out by Christians...

[vetran]

So did I. I'm pointing out that the majority of the press and people are stating that in this influx of refugees there will be many who are terrorists yet the people who committed the attacks were not refugees, just using them as cover, they were already radicalised and could be deemed as terrorists from the off. As it is, they would have found another way to get in much like the 9/11 bombers and that in in a country where there are no open borders. I mean, how the hell are there so many illegal immigrants, they must be getting in some how?

and the people who radicalised these individuals where dd they come from? Who will form the next wave?

Just because they are using existing talent why would they stop there? The benefit of using locals is they are less likely to be detected, however when they run out they will switch to recently imported talent..

[Mordac]

So did I. I'm pointing out that the majority of the press and people are stating that in this influx of refugees there will be many who are terrorists yet the people who committed the attacks were not refugees, just using them as cover, they were already radicalised and could be deemed as terrorists from the off. As it is, they would have found another way to get in much like the 9/11 bombers and that in in a country where there are no open borders. I mean, how the hell are there so many illegal immigrants, they must be getting in some how?

Try Schengen for starters.

[minestrone]

So did I. I'm pointing out that the majority of the press and people are stating that in this influx of refugees there will be many who are terrorists yet the people who committed the attacks were not refugees, just using them as cover, they were already radicalised and could be deemed as terrorists from the off. As it is, they would have found another way to get in much like the 9/11 bombers and that in in a country where there are no open borders. I mean, how the hell are there so many illegal immigrants, they must be getting in some how?

9/11 bombers?

I really think you need to do some research on Islamic terrorism before we chat again.

[tomtomagain]

You've got to wonder when the patience of the French population will finally snap and they start going after everyone who could possibly be a threat.

There's a lot more a powerful Western state can do ... but whether it's citizens actually want to go that far I don't know.

Internment in Europe in 2016. Depressing thought.

[vetran]

Have you ever been in a terrorist attack? I have which was carried out by Christians. I've also been in the middle of a military coup, once again carried out by Christians...

So you give Jihadi's free pass because you suspect Christians?

I fear all religious and radical nutters. If you wanted to import a million radical Irishmen in the middle of the troubles to the UK I wouldn't be keen. I think the Bible Belt Nutters should stay in the US too.

These Terrorist Christians if they were to apply for Asylum in the UK would you be keen?