[Merged]Brexit stuff

[BlasterBates]

So we had one muppet on earlier stating we hadn't lost sovereignty. And now we have a different muppet telling us we can't negotiate because it's illegal.

Tell someone who cares.

Didn't you read the EU's rules ?

No negotiation until you've left.

We're still in the EU.....

[tomtomagain]

I have another question.

Regarding tariffs. What do I currently buy from outside of the EU that has tariffs placed on it by either the EU, the UK itself, or the exporting country?

Is there anything in the shops that we regularly consume that costs more to us as end consumers because the supplier is outside of the EU and outside of any existing EU trade agreement?

For example have we been paying more for Maple Syrup from Canada? Will Maple syrup cost less once CETA is signed?

Australian wine? Does that have a tariff on it? Or are they just levelled on big-ticket items such as cars or raw-material such as steel?


.... and a supplementary question : Who collects the tariffs?

[WTFH]

So we had one muppet on earlier stating we hadn't lost sovereignty. And now we have a different muppet telling us we can't negotiate because it's illegal.

Tell someone who cares.

It's too much for you to understand, isn't it?

We're still in the EU. (For at least 3 more years)
We still have free trade with the EU.
The laws that our elected officials voted for mean that no country within the EU can negotiate trade deals on its own.
Our own elected people vote for that. Not some unelected civil servants in Whitehall.

There's even a helpful document on the europa.eu website detailing how trade negotiations are carried out.

[GB9]

Slam dunk proof Wrexiters din't even know what the EU was before voting to leave it.

So we had one muppet on earlier stating we hadn't lost sovereignty. And now we have a different muppet telling us we can't negotiate because it's illegal.

Tell someone who cares.

[GB9]

"How about the fact that the taxpayer is on the hook for any tariffs over and above what Nissan would otherwise be charged?"

You're having a bad day, aren't you. All that positive news. Must hurt.

As the biggest consumer of Vauxhall cars in the EU it would be an interesting decision to move production away, thus increasing costs due to Sterling and possible tariffs.

And in terms of subsidies, anything going to Nissan is just a continuation.

[tomtomagain]

Slam dunk proof Wrexiters din't even know what the EU was before voting to leave it.

I didn't vote to leave. I voted to stay.

But that's not my question. My question is why is it illegal? Under whose jurisdiction and what is the penalty?

There are lots of things that should be illegal and are, some that shouldn't be illegal and are, and some that are legal and shouldn't be.

Why is negotiating a new trade deal between two countries illegal? Why should it be? Given that most of the world thinks that encouraging trade and cooperation is a good thing it seems to be odd to decide that negotiation between two sovereign nations should be "illegal".

[scooterscot]

Nissan to build new models in Sunderland - BBC News

"How about the fact that the taxpayer is on the hook for any tariffs over and above what Nissan would otherwise be charged?"

[BlasterBates]

Can you show some evidence to back up that assertion that we can't negotiate a deal with Australia before we finally leave the EU.

Sorry but I need proof before I can believe anything a contract breaking muppet states is true...

Indeed, sadly the only muppets around are the ones pontificating new trade deals.

Brexit: Australia rules out starting trade negotiations with UK until it leaves EU | The Independent

The US has also declined to negotiate. I doubt the UK will find anyone to negotiate until the EU gives the green light. Quite right too, if you sign an international agreement you should abide by it, and the agreement is quite clear, no negotiations until the UK has left the EU. If you don't like the agreement you shouldn't sign up.

[Paddy]

Nissan to build new models in Sunderland - BBC News

Oh gloomy gloomy gloomy!!

UK economy grows 0.5% in three months after Brexit vote - BBC News

Oh woe is me!!

GDP data triggers spike in pound - BBC News

The spike was short lived... now a nose dive..

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=GBPEUR=X

[shaunbhoy]

Nissan to build new models in Sunderland - BBC News

Oh gloomy gloomy gloomy!!

UK economy grows 0.5% in three months after Brexit vote - BBC News

Oh woe is me!!

GDP data triggers spike in pound - BBC News