Terror attack in Nice, 30 dead

[minestrone]

Funnily enough, the UK has quite a bit of experience from the IRA/INLA/RIRA/etc doing the same thing in the 70s, 80s & 90s.


Was the violence in "The Troubles" sorted out by more violence or not?


Hopefully young people in the UK & Ireland learned from that. It appears some older ones didn't.

14 minutes for the armed police to turn up and shoot Lee Rigby's attackers, 16 minutes after the attack, Kay Burley was probably just behind them. The guy in Nice got a couple of minutes and killed 84.

You are delusional if you think we have an effective defence to terrorist attacks in the UK when hardly any police are armed.

[WTFH]

14 minutes for the armed police to turn up and shoot Lee Rigby's attackers, 16 minutes after the attack, Kay Burley was probably just behind them. The guy in Nice got a couple of minutes and killed 84.

You are delusional if you think we have an effective defence to terrorist attacks in the UK when hardly any police are armed.

So, what is your solution, or are you just an armchair critic?

[minestrone]

So, what is your solution, or are you just an armchair critic?

Surveillance and prevention but you wont catch them all and when the tulip goes down someone has to be there quickly with a gun and that does mean more armed police.

The standard "he was mad, wasn't a real Muslim" response does nothing to address the problem, every one must be able to see that now. The Fort hood shooting where a Muslim shot 13 dead whilst shouting Allahu Akhbar was categorised as work place violence. Crap like that has to stop.

[WTFH]

Surveillance and prevention but you wont catch them all and when the tulip goes down someone has to be there quickly with a gun and that does mean more armed police.

The standard "he was mad, wasn't a real Muslim" response does nothing to address the problem, every one must be able to see that now. The Fort hood shooting where a Muslim shot 13 dead whilst shouting Allahu Akhbar was categorised as work place violence. Crap like that has to stop.

The Fort Hood shooting - would it have been prevented if the murderer had not had easy access to guns?

As for the UK, when was the last time we had a mass shooting?

But I want to check, are you suggesting we need more camera surveillance, all the police should be armed, and there should be a shoot to kill policy on anyone who looks like a Muslim? Cause if that's not what you're implying, you're doing a very good job of hiding it.

[Bee]

14 minutes for the armed police to turn up and shoot Lee Rigby's attackers, 16 minutes after the attack, Kay Burley was probably just behind them. The guy in Nice got a couple of minutes and killed 84.

You are delusional if you think we have an effective defence to terrorist attacks in the UK when hardly any police are armed.

Who should prevent the terrorists attacks are the Secret Services, arrest them before come to the streets.

[FatLazyContractor]

Who should prevent the terrorists attacks are the Secret Services, arrest them before come to the streets.

You what the phuck?

[xoggoth]

Who should prevent the terrorists attacks are the Secret Services

Indeed, but obviously much more difficult in practice. How do you distinguish those with a real terrorist intent from the online ranters who are unlikely to do anything at all? Who in their right mind hasn't suggested killing Tony Blair for example?

[BrilloPad]

Indeed, but obviously much more difficult in practice. How do you distinguish those with a real terrorist intent from the online ranters who are unlikely to do anything at all? Who in their right mind hasn't suggested killing Tony Blair for example?

Indeed. And often the online ranters are less likely to do anything in real life as they have a vent.

At the moment it seems the French are struggling to prove he was part of IS.

He was a total fruit cake though.

[xoggoth]

Interesting item here about the poor state of France's security systems.

Since the London bombings of a decade ago, Britain has managed to avoid such a mass attack. But statistics show it has been a close-run thing. Forty terrorist plots have been disrupted since 2005 - including seven in the past 18 months.
It's no accident that this country has not yet endured a Paris, Brussels or Nice. Britain's defences against terrorist attack depend not just on the watery buffer of the English Channel and our non-membership of Schengen - Europe's border-free area. Crucially they also rely on the way in which intelligence is now intimately shared between all the agencies: the Security Service (MI5), MI6, GCHQ - and the police.
In stark contrast, the situation across the Channel is very different. France has six intelligence agencies - and they're decidedly not joined up, as the failures to detect the Paris attacks in January and November last year clearly illustrate. As I discovered when I investigated the November attacks, there was a fatal lack of communication and co-ordination both before and during those attacks

How Britain has been kept safe for a decade - BBC News

[BrilloPad]

In the co-op I saw a newspaper with a picture of the terrorist on the front. He looked like a body builder. I wonder if he overdosed on steroids?