Brexit Minister googles "What is the EU" after his appointment

[GB9]

Not forming individual trade deals is not a rule, or a law. It's the fundamental basis of the whole EU concept: a trading block, or common market. The 27 come as a package deal; that's one of the reasons you lot were insisting we had to leave.

Germany is not going to pretend the EU never existed just so it can sell a couple of extra 3-series to British photocopier salesmen.

It is. Which is why the EU is doomed to fail.

[CretinWatcher]

Their glorious leader plus a whole host of others cretins clearly stated 'no informal negotiations'. And in the background informal negotiations took place!

Really? When? While the PM was getting changed?
Honestly in a forum full of complete retards, you're a stand-out.

[shaunbhoy]

But I suppose you see no problem at all with the UK entering into trade deals on behalf of all of its member countries?

No problem at all. The only part of the "United Kingdom" that had any reservations about the status quo regarding the Union, put it to the test less than 2 years ago. The resounding answer was to stay as part of the UK. Therefore, despite a minority of disgruntled malcontents that seem disinclined to respect the democratic voice of the people, there is no reason not to utilise Westminster to negotiate deals on behalf of the country as a whole.

[GB9]

Really? When? While the PM was getting changed?
Honestly in a forum full of complete retards, you're a stand-out.

Did you not read the post linking to the BBC report start g negotiations had been ongoing for 3 weeks?

You can read can't you?

[VectraMan]

It is. Which is why the EU is doomed to fail.

Even if you're right unless it happens in the next few months the UK can't do a deal with any individual member. It needs to do a deal with the entire bloc.

So yours and David Davis' strategy for post Brexit Britain has no basis in reality.

Which is nice.

[shaunbhoy]

Even if you're right unless it happens in the next few months, or until Article 50 is triggered + at least a subsequent 24 months, the UK can't do a deal with any individual member.

ftfy

[Mordac]

It is not so much as does not know more does not care.

We are not fussed about dealing with the EU as a trading block

We will trade with individual members of the EU if we wish as individual countries.

People are still thinking in terms of the EU - we do not care

We should care - individual EU member states cannot negotiate with the UK (or anyone else for that matter). Have you not been paying attention for the past fifty eleven years? We do, if played right, have the upper hand in negotiations on trade. The single market is a bit of a smokescreen, since any trade deal (e.g. a tariff free deal each way, which is the sort of deal we'll probably get in the end, despite all the political posturing from politicians who may not even be in their jobs when any deal is finally agreed) has to include all member states by EU rules.

[Mordac]

Really? When? While the PM was getting changed?
Honestly in a forum full of complete retards, you're a stand-out.

Most "negotiations" take place between civil servants anyway, and the politicians give guidelines and then turn up at the end to take the credit if it works well, or else they do a Gordon Brown and sign up in a back room if they know it's crap but don't have much choice.
Do you understand any of that, as a completely retarded cretinous troll? Thought not.

[Mordac]

Their glorious leader plus a whole host of others cretins clearly stated 'no informal negotiations'. And in the background informal negotiations took place!

If Germany wants a trade agreement directly with the UK it will get one and there will be sweet fa the EU can do about it.

Sadly untrue, unless Germany withdraws from the EU first. We'll have to see what happens to Merkel in the forthcoming elections to judge the likelihood (or not) of that.

[Mordac]

Not forming individual trade deals is not a rule, or a law.

So whose hype were you listening to that you believe that garbage? Would you like it spelt out? IT IS ENSHRINED IN EU LAW, ALL TRADE NEGOTIATIONS ARE DONE THROUGH THE EU. END OF.

Better?