Brexit Minister googles "What is the EU" after his appointment

[m0n1k3r]

No problem at all. The only part of the "United Kingdom" that had any reservations about the status quo regarding the Union, put it to the test less than 2 years ago. The resounding answer was to stay as part of the UK.

On the basis that the UK is an EU member, but that is apparently not going to "remain", so the entire basis for their decision has vanished.

The resounding answer was to stay as part of the UK. Therefore, despite a minority of disgruntled malcontents that seem disinclined to respect the democratic voice of the people, there is no reason not to utilise Westminster to negotiate deals on behalf of the country as a whole.

... which is the whole point behind why 27 other member states don't have any issues with Brussels/Strasbourg negotiate on behalf of the union as a whole.

Strictly speaking, the UK is not a country, but a country of countries.

[m0n1k3r]

ftfy

Should be at most 24 months. The parties can agree that no further negotiation is required at any point, and agree on the divorce settlement there and then. It can potentially be more than 24 months, but only if the two parties + 26 EU member states agree, which won't happen.

[m0n1k3r]

So whose hype were you listening to that you believe that garbage? Would you like it spelt out? IT IS ENSHRINED IN EU LAW, ALL TRADE NEGOTIATIONS ARE DONE THROUGH THE EU. END OF.

Better?

You are writing for deaf ears, or even more accurate for closed eyes and minds.

[Mordac]

On the basis that the UK is an EU member, but that is apparently not going to "remain", so the entire basis for their decision has vanished.



... which is the whole point behind why 27 other member states don't have any issues with Brussels/Strasbourg negotiate on behalf of the union as a whole.

Strictly speaking, the UK is not a country, but a country of countries.

It's therefore convenient that in EU lingo speak, all countries are known as "member states", not countries.

[shaunbhoy]

On the basis that the UK is an EU member

Utter pish. The UK's EU status was never guaranteed during the Scottish Referendum. And as the Brexit result clearly shows, nor could it ever HAVE been.

... which is the whole point behind why 27 other member states don't have any issues with Brussels/Strasbourg negotiate on behalf of the union as a whole.

Of course they don't. There are NO dissenting voices within the EU regarding the "value" of the Brussels/Strasbourg establishment. What fooking planet are you from?

Strictly speaking, the UK is not a country, but a country of countries.

It is a United Kingdom, the clue is in the name. Politicians from across that Kingdom meet at Westminster to negotiate national policy. Despite what some may wish for, that is the reality. So buckle up and await instructions!

[SueEllen]

If Scotland want to vote again, and this time choose to leave then f***' em.

The only people against it clearly are against democracy.

[CretinWatcher]

So buckle up and await instructions!

Spoken like the true corporal you are.
It's not enough that, together with the rest of the stupid half of the population, you followed your idiotic leaders over the edge of a cliff, but even though they ran away, you'd still be happy to sit up, jump and fetch too.
You're a blockhead of truly epic proportions.

[GB9]

Sadly untrue, unless Germany withdraws from the EU first. We'll have to see what happens to Merkel in the forthcoming elections to judge the likelihood (or not) of that.

I wouldn't envisage them withdrawing, more a wider point that when it suits, rules can be changed.

It may be that trade suits one member but the others have no interest. I could see a rule in such a case that says only the interested member negotiates. It may be that the outcome then applies to all.

If a fudge is needed I'm sure it can be achieved.

[shaunbhoy]

Some irrelevant petulant waffle deleted

I appreciate that, never having been in a position where you have been required to use much initiative, that the whole idea of a country making its own decisions can be quite daunting.
However, fear not. There are those that are brighter and bolder than you that will chart the country's progress through these stormy waters. Until then, why not go back to weaving baskets or whatever other therapy is de rigeur for the emotionally and intellectually bankrupt these days?
You are either part of the problem or part of the solution, and in your case the former category sticks out like a sore thumb.

[Mordac]

I wouldn't envisage them withdrawing, more a wider point that when it suits, rules can be changed.

Neither would I, and no they can't - at least not by an individual member who happens to want to suit themselves.

It may be that trade suits one member but the others have no interest. I could see a rule in such a case that says only the interested member negotiates. It may be that the outcome then applies to all.

Yes that may well be. No you can't, and no it wouldn't.

If a fudge is needed I'm sure it can be achieved.

This is the EU we're talking about, the home of fudge (sorry Devonians). Even then, achieving a fudge (especially one of some benefit) seems to prove ever more improbable.