Boris Johnson on course for Tory leadership showdown with Theresa May

[SueEllen]

Oh I forgot lots of people are now joining the Labour party so they can vote Corbyn out.

linky

Do it for Britain - and don't vote for that f***ing Corbyn as Labour can't form the government anyway.

[jamesbrown]

The wider party has loads of infiltrators in it who cannot be fecking bothered to vote so the party need to change their membership rules urgently.

Absolutely this, if they want to survive. Dropping it to 2 quid was full on muppetry. I think the Tories charge 25 quid, which is going to make most of the fringe "supporters" think twice

[jamesbrown]

Oh I forgot lots of people are now joining the Labour party so they can vote Corbyn out.

Problem is that a lot of Corbyn supporters are doing the same. As you say, they need to change the membership rules.

[SueEllen]

Problem is that a lot of Corbyn supporters are doing the same. As you say, they need to change the membership rules.

They got rid of their £3 supporters.

[jamesbrown]

They got rid of their £3 supporters.

Really? I thought it was still £3 (I thought £2, but I'm probably not recalling correctly). When you say "got rid of", I assume you mean stopped new members at £3? All the Corbynites are still members AFAIK, which is why everyone knows the outcome if it returns to the wider party for a vote. IIRC, ~60% support Corbyn overall, but around ~80% of the £3 members.

[xoggoth]

The plus side of the Lib Dems and now Labour disappearing is that the Monster Raving Loony party may take power at the next election. Probably give us the most sensible policies the UK has seen in decades.

[bobspud]

We need to let Boris win this election. I believe this for two reasons.

1) This is a short term gig. By the time he's done what is needed he's going to be finished politically and probably mentally too.

2) The Tories have a habit of waisting good leaders IDS,Hague possibly Howard. IF Mrs May is the real deal then gunning her into a cluster cuss is just bad strategy.

We know that Osborne is done and will be finished following his time as a chancellor and if his public record doesn't do it I'm sure his escort mate has the private photos to finish the job.

The next few years will be brutal give it to someone that deserves the stress.

Meanwhile until David Milliband comes home Labour are doomed.

[darmstadt]

I see they have a bit of a plan now: Boris Johnson and Theresa May aim to cut migration and stay in single market | Politics | The Guardian

Both of the Conservative leadership frontrunners, Boris Johnson and Theresa May, have backed the idea that the EU’s free-movement principle should be interpreted as meaning the freedom to move to a specific job rather than the freedom to cross borders to look for work or claim benefits.

Although I believe the benefits subject was one of Cameron's more successful reforms:

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2016...child-benefits
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ts-judges-rule

So really, nothing much new then?

[SueEllen]

I see they have a bit of a plan now: Boris Johnson and Theresa May aim to cut migration and stay in single market | Politics | The Guardian



Although I believe the benefits subject was one of Cameron's more successful reforms:

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2016...child-benefits
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ts-judges-rule

So really, nothing much new then?

Problem in the UK is some "benefits" are administered by the DWP and others by HMRC with input from other departments.

They really need to make one department legislatively responsible for all UK benefits even if they are administered by another department so they can easily pass laws with the required residency rulings. It's a mess at the moment so doing that won't make it more messy.

[AtW]

Or just remove all benefits, you want beneficts?

Get a friend...