Boris Johnson on course for Tory leadership showdown with Theresa May

[darmstadt]

I wonder if they'll call it the SDP.

Cheeky fecker! They worked out well didn't they

[barrydidit]

maybe we can have the employable Milliband brother?

If only there were a safe labour seat just about to elect a new mp with all other parties pledging not to contest it...

[SueEllen]

Cheeky fecker! They worked out well didn't they

Now called the "Liberal Democrats"

I wonder why the Liberal Democrats didn't look at history when they went in coalition. The bigger party always swallows up the smaller one.....

[SueEllen]

If only there were a safe labour seat just about to elect a new mp with all other parties pledging not to contest it...

He wouldn't be that stupid.

[SueEllen]

Personally, I think Corbyn will eventually give up. He knows that he'd win again, but there are only two possible outcomes now, neither of which leave a good legacy: 1) the party splits immediately; or 2) the party is reshaped through deselection (probably also resulting a new party of Blairite MPs). The word is that McDonnell is currently persuading him to stay on, but it's clear his position is untenable when he can't even fill 50% of Shadow Cabinet positions. That isn't going to change if he's reelected, so mass deselection and a GE will be the only hope.

However, even when Corbyn goes, I think Labour are dead for the foreseeable future. Standing on a manifesto to reverse the referendum decision would be the final nail in the coffin but, either way, it's an existential crisis between the PLP, wider party, and the electorate, not simply a crisis of leadership. The Tories are in a complete mess too, but it's not existential.

Since Labour heartlands said they don't want to stay in the EU the newly elected Labour leader would be stupid to lead a remain campaign.

They have to give platitudes about respecting the will of the people and then arguing with the Tory government.

The wider party has loads of infiltrators in it who cannot be fecking bothered to vote so the party need to change their membership rules urgently.

[SueEllen]

Oh Eagle is going to mount a challenge to Corbyn.

linky

[AtW]

I'd rather he was screwing the overseas aid budget up than the treasury

Foreign Office is GCHQ - he'll have dirt on everybody!!!

Even SueEllen!!!

[SueEllen]

Foreign Office is GCHQ - he'll have dirt on everybody!!!

Even SueEllen!!!

I didn't kill JR I was too drunk.

[AtW]

Corbyn is holding out for chilcot so he can apologise and call for Tony's head on a plate. That is all he wants...

Just doesn't fit with the countries need to have a working government and opposition right now.

Well done Out.. You really ****ed it all up didn't you....

He'll be waiting for another 10 years then...

[AtW]

I didn't kill JR I was too drunk.

Is it an aggravating or mitigating factor in UK criminal justice?