Lies & Damn Lies

[WTFH]

Obviously as England is not part of mainland Europe quite clearly different rules need to apply because we do have to manage our borders (which we do) and so we do not really need to sign up to the 'free movement of people is a good thing and we allow it' bollox.

England does not currently manage its borders with Wales & Scotland and does allow "free movement of people".

[original PM]

England does not currently manage its borders with Wales & Scotland and does allow "free movement of people".

Yes and if Scotland decides to move on we may end up having to put border controls because peoples from the EU will go to Scotland, realise it tulip and always rains and then try to get into England!

[SueEllen]

The point is they cannot which is why allowing the free movement of people across mainland Europe was allowed - mainly because there was no way you could stop it - so not really a decision to allow it more a decision not to spend money trying to stop it - and then tell everyone it is a 'good thing' and we 'allowed' it.

Obviously as England is not part of mainland Europe quite clearly different rules need to apply because we do have to manage our borders (which we do) and so we do not really need to sign up to the 'free movement of people is a good thing and we allow it' bollox.

It was up to UK governments past and present to ensure that the benefits system was for people who had a stake in this country and weren't passing through. All UK governments of all political colours failed in doing this.

In other countries in the EU you are allowed to move to the country but if you don't have a job and can't prove you can support yourself you have no recourse to public funds, and in some cases can be forced to leave after 3 months.

[SueEllen]

Yes and if Scotland decides to move on we may end up having to put border controls because peoples from the EU will go to Scotland, realise it tulip and always rains and then try to get into England!

If they do then it's again a failure of the English and Welsh government.

Other countries keep track of people moving around. In fact in some European countries every time you interact with a government, bank or do a significant retail transaction you are expected to give out an ID number.

[original PM]

If they do then it's again a failure of the English and Welsh government.

Other countries keep track of people moving around. In fact in some European countries every time you interact with a government, bank or do a significant retail transaction you are expected to give out an ID number.

Ok well now that we are suppose to be having 'controlled immigration' then this is one of the measures we can implement.

The idea to leave was so that we could concentrate on out problems and not worry about the problems of mainland Europe.....

[DodgyAgent]

Yes and if Scotland decides to move on we may end up having to put border controls because peoples from the EU will go to Scotland, realise it tulip and always rains and then try to get into England!

[vetran]

After the vote there was a surge in Brits googling 'What is the EU'

That is something to be ashamed of. There are so many chumps in the UK.

that will be the remainers!

[SueEllen]

that will be the remainers!

No it's the Brexiters who voted leave as they thought it would stop all immigrants being here including those that are "brown".

[westtester]

No it's the Brexiters who voted leave as they thought it would stop all immigrants being here including those that are "brown".

I'd be happy if we could deport David Dickinson.

[MrMarkyMark]

I'd be happy if we could deport David Dickinson.

By those rules, this man would have to go........looks like a bit like trimmer FLC.