Birstall MP attacked and killed

[scooterscot]

He bought a handbook in 1999 on how to make a handgun.

I once bought a book on the kamasutra. Much to my regret i've not practiced all the positions. But it doesn't mean i'm going to wheel-borrow someone.

Our actions define us, not our beliefs. Obviously his action couldn't have happened at any point given the crap he was spouting at the time. Would he have done the same to Tiffany at checkout 3 in ASDA while shouting his political message? No. He's a nutter like most far right, mentally ill no doubt and you can bet the powers that be are attempting to push his character deep into that territory.

[eek]

+1

Maybe they are worried that if the UK leaves they will not be allowed back.

Is it that they see the UK as it was, we see what its becoming?

[shaunbhoy]

Most people in the Remain camp like most people who were in the No camp in the Scottish referendum actually live in the relevant country.

Within CUK? Are you sure? Darmstadt, Scooter and NAT seem very vocal on this thread amongst others. I'd say that represents quite a decent proportion of the CUK Bremain family. Fairly sure none of them currently reside in Blighty.

[shaunbhoy]

+1

Maybe they are worried that if the UK leaves they will not be allowed back.

I totally agree. Narrow self-interest. Hardly the most altruistic way to be voting.

[shaunbhoy]

An apologist is someone who offers an argument in defence of something controversial. Not someone who apologises.

Precisely, and I in no way offered any defence for what happened. So your point is?

[BrilloPad]

Funny how most of the Remainers seem to be expats.

+1

Maybe they are worried that if the UK leaves they will not be allowed back.

[NotAllThere]

You don't help your argument by sounding like an apologist...

WTF are you on about? I have nothing to apologize for.

An apologist is someone who offers an argument in defence of something controversial. Not someone who apologises.

[Mordac]

I wonder what the breakdown is on here of the Remain camp in terms of just what proportion of them actually still reside in the UK?
Not that I feel they are not entitled to have an opinion, but just from the point of view that they may well be less informed and aware of many of the things that are driving so many people from a whole range of political flavours to consider an OUT vote so seriously.

I believe that it is a frustration with their political leaders, who similarly are out of touch with their concerns, that is breeding disenchantment with the whole political elite.
It might well prove to be the case that a vote that goes against what most of these leaders of various hues expect will really shake things up and force a real change in our entire democratic process. Not before time too.

Funny how most of the Remainers seem to be expats. The poor buggers who have to live in this country can't wait to be shot of our so-called Lords & Masters. A plague on both your houses (that's Brussels & Strasbourg, for the uninitiated).

[Mordac]

Truth be told, if PM never called a referendum for political gain in the first place Mrs Cox would still be alive today.

Doubtful, and arguably somewhat disingenuous. What Cameron did may well have been stupid, in your opinion, but that must never be allowed to excuse or explain the actions of a lone nutcase. Instead of blaming Cameron, how about blaming the individual, and possibly those who let him loose on the streets.

[scooterscot]

I vote with my feet. Life is short as it is. If my vote can help fix that, great.