Birstall MP attacked and killed

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Maybe they are worried that if the UK leaves they will not be allowed back.

Is it that they see the UK as it was, we see what its becoming?

[scooterscot]

He bought a handbook in 1999 on how to make a handgun.

I once bought a book on the kamasutra. Much to my regret i've not practiced all the positions. But it doesn't mean i'm going to wheel-borrow someone.

Our actions define us, not our beliefs. Obviously his action couldn't have happened at any point given the crap he was spouting at the time. Would he have done the same to Tiffany at checkout 3 in ASDA while shouting his political message? No. He's a nutter like most far right, mentally ill no doubt and you can bet the powers that be are attempting to push his character deep into that territory.

[scooterscot]

Birstall MP attacked and killed

Doubtful, and arguably somewhat disingenuous. What Cameron did may well have been stupid, in your opinion, but that must never be allowed to excuse or explain the actions of a lone nutcase. Instead of blaming Cameron, how about blaming the individual, and possibly those who let him loose on the streets.

You're right of course. And i don't doubt for a minute he's not alone given the massive increase in mental heath issues facing the UK. The number of our x/armed forces that end their lives in suicide is shameful. We keep ignoring these problems as a society we'll be in big do da.

My point would be to shine light on the dangers of career politicians and their short-term actions, which has nothing to do with the peoples will. It's crass politics and not without consequences.

The UK has its work cut out, it is dangerously lurching to the right, both in and out of parliament. Perhaps if the referendum was given a couple of years like the Scottish referendum,2 debate would be more sincere rather than the mudslinging match it had turned into.

[PurpleGorilla]

The UK has its work cut out, it is dangerously lurching to the right, both in and out of parliament. Perhaps if the referendum was given a couple of years like the Scottish referendum,2 debate would be more sincere rather than the mudslinging match it had turned into.

You don't live in the UK - where do you get this opinion from?

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You don't live in the UK - where do you get this opinion from?

Also is the issue left and right or is it more that its finally dawning on the White Working Class Labour voter that in the same way that the labour party in Scotland wasn't representing them (so they went on mass to the SNP) Labour isn't representing the WWC in England and Wales....

I think the issue Scooter has is that he sees Labour and the SNP as left wing and UKIP as right wing... It's not that simple....

[scooterscot]

You don't live in the UK - where do you get this opinion from?

The clue is in the name. And since i'm the only member of my family not living in the UK my opinion has plenty of real life examples;(

[scooterscot]

I think the issue Scooter has is that he sees Labour and the SNP as left wing and UKIP as right wing... It's not that simple....

I don't have an issue.

The SNP is more conservative than the conservatives! I like that, just as long as it is done from Edinburgh not London.

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I don't have an issue.

The SNP is more conservative than the conservatives! I like that, just as long as it is done from Edinburgh not London.

But you are arguing that Britain has become right wing. It hasn't it's just following what happened in Scotland 2 years ago as the WWC eventually discovered that Labour neither really understand or cared about their problems...

[PurpleGorilla]

The clue is in the name. And since i'm the only member of my family not living in the UK my opinion has plenty of real life examples;(

If the clue is in the name you must be an ooter for the EU!

[scooterscot]

But you are arguing that Britain has become right wing. It hasn't it's just following what happened in Scotland 2 years ago as the WWC eventually discovered that Labour neither really understand or cared about their problems...

I knew that post was coming before you wrote it. Scotland is not right wing and never has been. What conservatism is and what the tories practice are certainly not the same thing. The SNP have gone out of their way to protect the state while the tories look for a buyer.