EU superstate

[DimPrawn]

And? Imports will drop because of GBP weakness - people won't be able to afford things.

Things people won't be able to afford (perhaps).

iPads, iPhones, Playstations, 55 inch UHD flat TV's.

Things people will be able to afford (because we don't import them).

Healthy food, rent, mortgage, water (because it's our rain), electricity (because we can dump the "green" subsidies).


We can also set out own VAT rate, so how about VAT free for everything? Should help the economy nicely...

[AtW]

VAT wil increase for sure - it collects so much dosh that no Govt will reduce it, never mind cancel. Taxes would have to go up noticeably for all

[AtW]

You wont even conceded that the UK has a strong bargaining position.

What exactly going to be so strong?

If majority indeed votes out then fall EU can do other than make sure other coutries don't follow UK and the pnly way to do it will be to make sure UK loses out big time - they will make an example of UK, couple of lost decades to follow until rejoining referendum under worse conditions than now

[AtW]

Have you been drinking? If you have been smoking, PM me with you supplier's details. I'd like some of that tulip...

Not tonight...

My drink is from EU anyway, God forbid Ireland bans exports of Guiness

[DodgyAgent]

What exactly going to be so strong?

If majority indeed votes out then fall EU can do other than make sure other coutries don't follow UK and the pnly way to do it will be to make sure UK loses out big time - they will make an example of UK, couple of lost decades to follow until rejoining referendum under worse conditions than now

In other words the EU sees itself as an enforcing powre. It exists to protect itself and to control the member states even if that means disrupting economies

[Mordac]

In other words the EU sees itself as an enforcing powre. It exists to protect itself and to control the member states even if that means disrupting economies

Sums it up rather nicely. That's why I'm voting to get the hell outta there...

[GB9]

VAT wil increase for sure - it collects so much dosh that no Govt will reduce it, never mind cancel. Taxes would have to go up noticeably for all

Explain why.

[Flashman]

Remain will destroy democracy to exploit the poor

The average house price in Romania is 45,000 euros. You can check other EU member countries. The average house price in the UK is 340,000 euros, plus.

There is, now, unlimited access to the UK for people from EU member countries such as Romania. Poor people from these areas on the UK minimum wage, living in appalling accommodation to minimize costs, have a good chance or buying a house, outright, back home by saving over 4 or 5 years. (Remember, the 45,000 euro average price). They work hard because they have a chance to radically improve their lives and that of their families and should be applauded for grasping the chance to do so. It is a criminal shame no such chance exists for the UK poor- not that Remain cares, one tiny bit.

The UK poor don't have a cat's chance in a million years of ever owning a house because there's nowhere in the EU they can migrate to be able to do this. They find their wages slashed, whilst rents continue to spiral. The idea they could share the shocking conditions of visiting migrant labour is unconscionable; even then, they could never come close to buying a home of their own.

The real wages, in effect, for visiting migrant labour are radically higher than for those who were born in the UK. That is why, after all, people are drawn to the UK in their millions.

This is very handy for Remain and those who approve of the EU. They push for the destruction of UK democracy to ensure the fixed UK poor are fully exploited with reduced wages and spiralling rents. Remain are very conscious of the danger of the poor seeing through this deeply offensive profiteering and exploiting plan, hence their loathing for democracy and denigration of the poor or anyone who disagrees with them.

And where is the party of the working class on this? Labour's supporting George Osborne, Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan that's where.

[AtW]

Explain why.

You need explanation on why taxes will have to go up?

[AtW]

In other words the EU sees itself as an enforcing powre. It exists to protect itself and to control the member states even if that means disrupting economies

The main objective of EU is to piss off people like yourself.

They are doing it very well and long may it continue...