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    #31
    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    And who in EU says about abandoning elections???
    Elections for what? democracy will become dissolved and power controlled in soviet Union style - dominated by the Russians (like the EU) with "token" national governments supposedly having a say in how things are run but who are effectively in the pockets of the russians/EU
    Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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      #32
      Originally posted by unixman View Post
      not the sort of Dick Pics AssGuru is used to. Hasn't been the same since Grindr
      Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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        #33
        Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
        Elections for what? democracy will become dissolved and power controlled in soviet Union style
        Do you have evidence for that?

        I say it's impossible scenario because all member states get representation in EU Parliament which selects President - too many diverse countries to allow single dominating one.

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          #34
          Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
          Elections for what? democracy will become dissolved and power controlled in soviet Union style - dominated by the Russians (like the EU) with "token" national governments supposedly having a say in how things are run but who are effectively in the pockets of the russians/EU
          why don't we change the title of president to something that reflects the ultimate power it grants maybe something like Fuhrer would be good?
          Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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            #35
            Originally posted by AtW View Post
            "The post was established in 1958 and is elected by the European Parliament, on a proposal of the European Council for five-year terms. Once appointed, he or she, along with the Commission, is responsible to Parliament which can censure the President. The current President is Jean-Claude Juncker, who took office on 1 November 2014. He is a member of the European People's Party (EPP) and is the former Prime Minister of Luxembourg. Juncker is the twelfth President and his First Vice-President is Frans Timmermans."

            Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presid...ean_Commission

            Next elections due in 2019, that's your answer.

            The President is correctly elected by the Parliament (which was elected by the people), good solution, EU needed stronger executive branch.
            Why is someone from the smallest country in Europe the president? If he were put up in direct competition to other leaders from other countries what proportion of votes do you think he would get>
            Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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              #36
              Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
              Why is someone from the smallest country in Europe the president?
              Because (and that's elementary) if a German was chosen then UK and France would cry rivers of tears.

              It's a good, smart and safe choice to pick somebody from a "small" country.

              Get elected as a MEP and put forward your own candidacy next time.

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                #37
                Originally posted by AtW View Post
                Do you have evidence for that?

                I say it's impossible scenario because all member states get representation in EU Parliament which selects President - too many diverse countries to allow single dominating one.
                You explain the constitution of the Soviet Union then. I think you will find it is the model on which the EU will become. transfer of powers to the EU (unelected). The national governments then have reduced power so begin to owe their positions to the patronage of the EU. Hey presto we have a Soviet Union.
                Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by AtW View Post
                  Because (and that's elementary) if a German was chosen then UK and France would cry rivers of tears.

                  It's a good, smart and safe choice to pick somebody from a "small" country.
                  So what. At least it is democratic that the people of the EU would get one man one vote.
                  Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                    You explain the constitution of the Soviet Union then.
                    Unlike you I actually know what Soviet rule was - it was total central control from Moscow, more or less how it is now again in Russia - "rulers" of republics in Soviet Unions were APPOINTED from Moscow, that's not the same with EU and won't work even if they tried.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by AtW View Post
                      "The post was established in 1958 and is elected by the European Parliament, on a proposal of the European Council for five-year terms. Once appointed, he or she, along with the Commission, is responsible to Parliament which can censure the President. The current President is Jean-Claude Juncker, who took office on 1 November 2014. He is a member of the European People's Party (EPP) and is the former Prime Minister of Luxembourg. Juncker is the twelfth President and his First Vice-President is Frans Timmermans."

                      Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presid...ean_Commission

                      Next elections due in 2019, that's your answer.

                      The President is correctly elected by the Parliament (which was elected by the people), good solution, EU needed stronger executive branch.
                      The led must be able to remove the leader. It isn't adequate to have officials who elect, appoint or censure each other.

                      The led must be able to remove the leader. So what's the date of the next election where I can vote to remove the Commission and the President ?

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