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EU Referendum: Do we enough information to take the correct decision?

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    #91
    Originally posted by dx4100 View Post
    Says the idiot saying we should leave the EU

    I bet you voted for Boris didn't you ?
    because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them an idiot. Saying such a thing makes us think you are though.
    Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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      #92
      Originally posted by vetran View Post
      oh look your face is slipping, you don't mind white immigration from Eastern Europe, its those none white ones you don't like then?
      Oh so ? I never said I would stop it... There is more to life the dividing people up into contributors and none contributers. I can totally understand why an immigrant might want to bring members of their family over. Good luck to them. The good tulip UK has broad enough shoulders and if it means we get that doctor we need then its all good.

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        #93
        Originally posted by vetran View Post
        because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them an idiot. Saying such a thing makes us think you are though.
        No the FUD you post confirms that...

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          #94
          I've looked at both sides of the argument, and it's undeniable there's hardly any facts coming from the Remain camp, only fear mongering and speculation. Arguments seem to be as follows:

          Remain
          - If we leave, UK families will be worse off by £4300 a year
          - If we leave, House prices will crash
          - If we leave, recession might not be ruled out
          - If we leave, we'll have to put our air fares up
          - If we leave, we'll have to move manufacturing to (insert name of another country)
          - etc.

          Exit
          - The UK is the 5th largest economy in the world.
          - It costs £350 million a week to remain in the EU.
          - Remainers keep harping on about Trade Deals. It turns out, you don't actually need a Trade Deal, to trade with another country.
          - Currently in the EU we can't trade directly with non-EU countries e.g. India, and EU has been stalling on this
          - The EU is the only block not seeing growth, all others (North/South America, China, India are all seeing growth.
          - Being is the EU removes the ability of the UK to draft its own laws, to amend and remove existing laws. This is not democratically possible in the EU.
          - MP's are massively Pro-EU as when their careers here are over, they get to have a cushy job on some EU commission on something-or-other, with £100,000's in salary and allowances.
          - Just Google FCO 30/1048 "Sovereignty and the European Community" 1971, suppressed for 30 years.

          Why would anyone want to remain in the EU again?
          Originally posted by Nigel Farage MEP - 2016-06-24 04:00:00
          "I hope this victory brings down this failed project and leads us to a Europe of sovereign nation states, trading together, being friends together, cooperating together, and let's get rid of the flag, the anthem, Brussels, and all that has gone wrong."

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            #95
            Originally posted by rl4engc View Post
            - The UK is the 5th largest economy in the world. - and the EU is the biggest economy in the world
            - It costs £350 million a week to remain in the EU. - Not true, its much lower when you factor in the rebate
            - Remainers keep harping on about Trade Deals. It turns out, you don't actually need a Trade Deal, to trade with another country. - is this really news to you ??
            - Currently in the EU we can't trade directly with non-EU countries e.g. India, and EU has been stalling on this - Not true - see your own point above
            FIXED oh how the lies and bulltulip keep on coming...
            Last edited by dx4100; 16 May 2016, 14:24.

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              #96
              Originally posted by rl4engc View Post
              - The EU is the only block not seeing growth, all others (North/South America, China, India are all seeing growth. False - European Union GDP Annual Growth Rate | 1996-2016 | Data | Chart | Calendar
              - Being is the EU removes the ability of the UK to draft its own laws, to amend and remove existing laws. This is not democratically possible in the EU. - False The UK make laws and amend laws all the time

              More FUD

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                #97
                Originally posted by rl4engc View Post
                and it's undeniable there's hardly any facts coming from the Remain camp, only fear mongering and speculation.


                Exit camp:
                - If we remain we'll be overrun by immigrants
                - Turkey, Albania et al will be given free access to Britain and we'll be powerless to stop them.
                - We have no ability to stop terrorists and criminals coming to the UK.
                - All the muslim sex attackers in Germany will be given citizenship and therefore will come here.
                - The EU is proceeding head long into a European Super State (TM), which we won't have any option not to be part of.
                - The Euro will collapse dragging us into years of recession and poverty.
                - (Best of all) The EU is really Ze Germans looking to dominate the continent having failed to do it in two world wars. The official out camp now say the EU is like Hitler.

                Enough fear mongering and speculation for you?
                Last edited by VectraMan; 16 May 2016, 14:36. Reason: not!
                Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by rl4engc View Post

                  Remain
                  - If we leave, UK families will be worse off by £4300 a year That is not a fact
                  - If we leave, House prices will crash Nor is that a fact
                  - If we leave, recession might not be ruled out
                  - If we leave, we'll have to put our air fares up
                  - If we leave, we'll have to move manufacturing to (insert name of another country)
                  - etc.
                  None of these are facts : "something that is known to have happened or to exist, especially something for which proof exists, or about which there is information:"

                  Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by rl4engc View Post
                    - Being is the EU removes the ability of the UK to draft its own laws, to amend and remove existing laws. This is not democratically possible in the EU.
                    Found this for you:

                    Ten new laws that come into force in April 2016 - and how they affect you | Home News | News | The Independent

                    Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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                      I particularly like this one

                      Non-EU workers who earn less than £35,000 face deportation

                      Changes to UK visa rules mean that overseas workers will not be allowed to stay in the country for more than five years unless they can prove they earn more than £35,000.

                      If that applies to you and your five-year visa expires soon, you could face imminent deportation. The new law will not apply to nurses, PhD-level jobs and those on the official ‘Shortage Occupation List’. However most teachers and people working in IT and marketing could be packing their bags sooner than they had hoped. More than 100,000 people signed a petition against the changes, which will come into force on 6 April.
                      Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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