Now going on about Switzerland.
Which has always been successful. Due to staying out of wars and making money out of them.
Which has always been successful. Due to staying out of wars and making money out of them.
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Know of it, but nobody apart from those who wrote it behind closed doors know it's contents.Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
ISTR an early draught was leaked at one point, then the EU powers that be locked down security to what it is now (watch the video; the MEP is escorted into a room to meet a 'minder', has to lock all his electronic devices away, he's then given a pen and paper and led to another room to read the TTIP document. But he has to sign an agreement to say he won't disclose it's contents to anyone, including writing down the contents verbatim. He has to change the wording of what he writes down)
Is this the sort of totalitarian, secret state the UK wants to sign up to? We're greater than that.Originally posted by Nigel Farage MEP - 2016-06-24 04:00:00Comment
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Maybe sasguru is right about youOriginally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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Well I recall reading about TTIP back in 2013 and thinking then that it was a very bad thingOriginally posted by rl4engc View PostKnow of it, but nobody apart from those who wrote it behind closed doors know it's contents.
ISTR an early draught was leaked at one point, then the EU powers that be locked down security to what it is now (watch the video; the MEP is escorted into a room to meet a 'minder', has to lock all his electronic devices away, he's then given a pen and paper and led to another room to read the TTIP document. But he has to sign an agreement to say he won't disclose it's contents to anyone, including writing down the contents verbatim. He has to change the wording of what he writes down)
What like:Originally posted by rl4engc View Post
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justic...urity_Act_2013
https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkin...e-in-britain-0“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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What that I'm a cretin who fixes washing machines?Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
Yeah, you got me.Comment
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The whole issue with TTIP is that it effectively allows a company to sue a government if they introduce a law which affects sales of a company.Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
The smoking ban is one under scrutiny - how much has that cost tobacco companies and do you believe that those companies should then be allowed to sue the UK government for lost revenue?Comment
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First line in what you quoted from my post explains what I think. Have a look at what is happening in San Salvador: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/04/op...ents.html?_r=0Originally posted by original PM View Post“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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At least in this country currently we have the democratic right to get our elected MPs to amend or remove laws*, or to elect a new party who would promise to do that.Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
The Remainers need to understand that the EU won't allow this, laws are enacted in perpetuity by unelected members of the EU Commission who are answerable to no-one, and no doubt in the pockets of big corporations.
*This is kind of important, in the same sort of way as the Magna Carta is important.
The idiots voting for a supposed 'status quo' will get a rude awakening in 5 or 10 years. "What do you mean we can't change EU law? That's preposterous! How do we opt out?"Last edited by rl4engc; 17 May 2016, 13:20.Originally posted by Nigel Farage MEP - 2016-06-24 04:00:00Comment
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I would encourage everyone (whichever way you voted) to watch this. Whilst this film clearly only presents one side of the debate and has a lot of spin, it does make you question why anyone would make a pro-active choice (as the referendum required us to do) to remain shackled to this unaccountable, undemocratic, opaque monolith.Comment
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