Ken Livingstone

[Mordac]

It is unfortunate that people think the History of Israel started yesterday. They have been slaughtering in the middle east for 50 years. Be it in Lebanon, Palestine or Syria.

If you want to compare terrorism to terrorism then have a look at the formation of the state of Israel.

I personally don't see why launching rockets which are there as an act of provocation is in any way comparable to the slaughter of innocent men, women and children on an unbelievable scale. That includes the bombing of clearly marked schools and hospitals in Gaza. Yes it's a provocation but in the conflicts I can only see one terrorist. I'm a man of data and stats. Look at all the wars in the region and you will see who the main victims and aggressors are.

I'm certainly no fan of Hamas, but democracy won't get the Palestinians anywhere while they are continuously oppressed and treated as animals.

You're a bit out of touch aren't you? Slaughter has been happening for closer to 5000 years than 50. Still, let's not confuse the truth with whatever people want us to believe, eh?

[BrilloPad]

I hate that saying!

Sorry!

You Racist anti-South African, how can you say such things?

Fair cop guv.

Jews, Muslims, Scotsmen, people outside a 10 mile radius of where I live, as far as I'm concerned they're all bloody foreigners.

I thought anyone within 10 miles of you was sucked in by the gravity?

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

You're a bit out of touch aren't you? Slaughter has been happening for closer to 5000 years than 50. Still, let's not confuse the truth with whatever people want us to believe, eh?

You should start a career in deflecting people from the point.

Either have some point worth discussing or go and find some fools who operate at your own low intellectual capacity.

[AtW]

What's Churchill's view on this?

AtW in "SupremeSpod" mode!

[LondonManc]

are you asking for me to be banned?

No, I'm for some unknown reason trying to help you avoid a ban.

[BlueSharp]

Where is my suggestion that Israel should move? I don't care what the country is called frankly. It just needs to be a free and fair country where all people are given human rights and treated as equal citizens, regardless of their faith, colour or race.

Also where did you pluck 1.5 million Palestinians out of? Thin air?

1.5 Million from Wikipedia, however that appears to be wrong (West Bank, 2.72 million, Gaza Strip 1.7 million). That would still make them the minority, and in a free and fair country using the Isreal/WestBank/Gaza Strip population) I would bet that a single state would exist with a Zionist ruling majority.

I will have to check how the 20% Arabs that live in Israel are treated or those who live in the West Bank but work in Israel.

Reread my previous response, I even put the bit in bold for you the last time you asked that question.

[Scruff]

What's Churchill's view on this?

AtW in "SupremeSpod" mode!

He doesn't have access to the Internet in Raqqa

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

1.5 Million from Wikipedia, however that appears to be wrong (West Bank, 2.72 million, Gaza Strip 1.7 million). That would still make them the minority, and in a free and fair country using the Isreal/WestBank/Gaza Strip population) I would bet that a single state would exist with a Zionist ruling majority.

I will have to check how the 20% Arabs that live in Israel are treated or those who live in the West Bank but work in Israel.

Reread my previous response, I even put the bit in bold for you the last time you asked that question.

I don't get what you are on about here? Lots of democratic countries have different races and groups. Democracy would give them proportional representation and some human rights. Something they don't have at present.

[vetran]

its a clusterfeck both sides need get to the table. Israel are better armed & trained Palestinians have a valid point however there is enough space for everyone.

Livingstone gives a bad name to wankpuffins. He is a racist with a very dodgy track record.

[sasguru]

I don't get what you are on about here? Lots of democratic countries have different races and groups. Democracy would give them proportional representation and some human rights. Something they don't have at present.

Isn't Israel the only democracy in the area? - Egypt, no, Syria - Nope, Lebanon - hmmmm, Jordan - not really, Iraq -puppet state