New car time

[DimPrawn]

Okay, DTM...I have a 430bhp RWD and drive through a lot worse weather than the UK get, twisty roads and all and have no problems.

Winter tyres?

[darmstadt]

Winter tyres?

Of course but they're more for the cold rather than icy roads. Summer tyres back on tomorrow which means it'll probably snow (-3 forecast for tonight)

[WTFH]

Of course but they're more for the cold rather than icy roads. Summer tyres back on tomorrow which means it'll probably snow (-3 forecast for tonight)

Well, keep your winter tyres on until it warms up a bit. Normal cutover is around +7C road temp. If you're still getting -3, then don't change.


Oh, and can you answer my earlier question of when a RWD car last won the WRC?

[DimPrawn]

Well, keep your winter tyres on until it warms up a bit. Normal cutover is around +7C road temp. If you're still getting -3, then don't change.


Oh, and can you answer my earlier question of when a RWD car last won the WRC?

I'm not sure it really matters, with UK road surfaces, potholes, grid lock and blanket speed cameras.

Lucky if you are even moving these days, let alone driving like a WRC champion.

[WTFH]

Smart car driver

[Willapp]

I really don't understand some people's obsession with RWD cars, I just don't. Had an old MX-5 and it was so twitchy in the wet I ended up selling it before winter as I wouldn't dare drive it in the snow/ice, and no I'm not a terrible driver. My order of preference would be 4WD (e.g. quattro), FWD and probably never RWD. Might be fun on a track day but is it REALLY better for normal driving? I doubt it.

[DimPrawn]

I really don't understand some people's obsession with RWD cars, I just don't. Had an old MX-5 and it was so twitchy in the wet I ended up selling it before winter as I wouldn't dare drive it in the snow/ice, and no I'm not a terrible driver. My order of preference would be 4WD (e.g. quattro), FWD and probably never RWD. Might be fun on a track day but is it REALLY better for normal driving? I doubt it.

Yep. One untreated icy road on the way home from work, dark and poorly lit, with potholes and odd cambers, and see how much delight there is in RWD.

AWD everytime my friend!

[sasguru]

Yep. One untreated icy road on the way home from work, dark and poorly lit, with potholes and odd cambers, and see how much delight there is in RWD.

AWD everytime my friend!

You must be a crap driver.
My RWD is fine in the wet - but then I do have proper winter tyres.
That and the electronic aids mean you cope just fine.
Problem with AWD is that it doesn't help you to stop.
Journalist did something useful once and showed that winter tyres are more effective than AWD with normal tyres.

In the mud on the other hand, you really do need AWD.

[WTFH]

You must be a crap driver.
My RWD is fine in the wet - but then I do have proper winter tyres.
That and the electronic aids are just fine.
Problem with AWD is that it doesn't help you to stop.
Journalist did something useful once and showed that winter tyres are more effective than AWD with normal tyres.

Winter tyres + AWD = best option.


AWD doesn't help you stop, but it does help you power out of situations where you might otherwise have used the brakes and discovered you couldn't stop.

[sasguru]

Winter tyres + AWD = best option.


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Aye. But mostly unnecessary in the South.
Feckit, if it snows, I simply walk to Tesco, the nearest supermarket
Its unpleasant having to go Tesco rather than Waitrose, I grant you.