Why your taxes will rise sharply and your families standard of living will fall

[NotAllThere]

200 million lost to illegal health tourism out of a budget in excess of 100 billion. That indicates to me if the NHS is strapped for cash, health tourism is a very minor component of that.

Since when does posting on CUK have to have a point?

So you are just trolling.

[DimPrawn]

And how much is DP's house worth?

I'll ask ex Mrs DP and get back to you.

[PurpleGorilla]

Children are the future though

Indeed they are.

However IVF does not cure the sick, as such it is a luxury the NHS cannot afford.

I think people should pay for IVF on your own coin.

[DimPrawn]

Indeed they are.

However IVF does not cure the sick, as such it is a luxury the NHS cannot afford.

I think people should pay for IVF on your own coin.

It's pretty obvious that funding for life saving treatment should always get priorited over everything else. I would agree that this sort of thing should be funded by charities and people's own money.

[FatLazyContractor]

Indeed they are.

However IVF does not cure the sick, as such it is a luxury the NHS cannot afford.

I think people should pay for IVF on your own coin.

No, I think they should stop the urge to produce more and adopt orphans instead.

[FatLazyContractor]

It's pretty obvious that funding for life saving treatment should always get priorited over everything else. I would agree that this sort of thing should be funded by charities and people's own money.

IVF funded by charities?

[DimPrawn]

IVF funded by charities?

Why not?

There are charities for many medical issues. The money can be dished out for private treatments on a means tested needs basis.

[FatLazyContractor]

Why not?

There are charities for many medical issues. The money can be dished out for private treatments on a means tested needs basis.

That sounds like a tax free way of getting an IVF. Donate the money to charity, get money off the gideon and then claim it back through an IVF.

[DimPrawn]

That sounds like a tax free way of getting an IVF. Donate the money to charity, get money off the gideon and then claim it back through an IVF.

Sounds like a plan b.

[VectraMan]

How come in this era, with all the technology available it's still so difficult to verify a patients residence status? This is done in other countries. Basically the situation should be similar to the US, over there if you've got no health insurance you only get the very basic service and then it's out the door. We could have something similar here, either you prove your supposed to be here(Supply your NHS Number for example) or it's basic ward for you and out the door.

Hands up who knows their NHS number? Hands up who thinks they could remember their NHS number whilst being wheeled into A&E with blood pouring out of an open wound?

It was interesting when I went to a private hospital last year the first thing the receptionist asked was how I was paying. It just seemed so completely alien when you've grown up in a country with free healthcare. I kind of agree with the point, but it's not really fair on doctors and nurses, or receptionists to be the ones to have to tell dying people they're not going to get any help.