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Why I'll be voting to stay in Europe

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    #71
    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
    Airbus is mainly a political project. Quite a successful one strangely, for those who believe all government economic activity is futile.
    The Uk used to make whole jet airliners, now it makes part of them.
    Without the EU, I doubt it'll make anything.
    Proof?
    Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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      #72
      Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
      Schrengen will be sorted soon.
      They can't even spell it
      Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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        #73
        Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
        If the UK pulls out of the EU it will be in the same situation as any other non-EU country that doesn't have separate treaties with the EU. The laws allowing EU citizens to live and work within Britain will be in abeyance.

        I assume some provision will be made and an agreement reach with the EU for people already resident in the UK, but I don't see any reason why immigration from the EU would continue, nor why freedom of movement to/from the EU and the UK should continue.
        The second part is just as likely to cause a sharp influx of EU migrants post referendum wanting get on the boat before the gangplank is pulled.

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          #74
          Originally posted by sasguru View Post
          Airbus is mainly a political project. .
          A bit like manufacturing was in the Soviet Union?
          Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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            #75
            Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
            They can't even spell it
            Auto-correct
            "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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              #76
              If you vote for Brexit...

              ...remember you are also most likely voting for the dismemberment of the UK, since Scotland wants to throw in its lot with the EU.
              Regardless of whether you think that's a good thing or not, the reality is you are voting for England and Wales to leave the EU
              And since quite a lot of England and Wales is economically unviable, the rump of the productive state would be London and the South East.
              That really would be the end of this country as a world player, not that that is necessarily a bad thing.
              Hard Brexit now!
              #prayfornodeal

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                #77
                Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                A bit like manufacturing was in the Soviet Union?
                No you dunce, because I actually feel safe getting on an Airbus. Oh, and it makes a profit.
                Last edited by sasguru; 1 March 2016, 12:15.
                Hard Brexit now!
                #prayfornodeal

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by sasguru View Post
                  No you dunce, because I actually feel safe getting on an Airbus. Oh, and it makes a profit.
                  So you've just successfully argued against moving the manufacture of it away from the UK. Well done.

                  Interesting piece from Christopher Booker:
                  Nine deceptions in our history with the EU - Telegraph
                  The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
                    So you've just successfully argued against moving the manufacture of it away from the UK. Well done.

                    Interesting piece from Christopher Booker:
                    Nine deceptions in our history with the EU - Telegraph
                    They'd make a profit if they moved it anywhere.
                    It's spread out because of EU pork-barrel politics.
                    And anything by CB is usually bollox.
                    Hard Brexit now!
                    #prayfornodeal

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by sasguru View Post
                      ...remember you are also most likely voting for the dismemberment of the UK, since Scotland wants to throw in its lot with the EU.
                      Regardless of whether you think that's a good thing or not, the reality is you are voting for England and Wales to leave the EU
                      And since quite a lot of England and Wales is economically unviable, the rump of the productive state would be London and the South East.
                      That really would be the end of this country as a world player, not that that is necessarily a bad thing.
                      And Northern Ireland.

                      I think we can surmise that it could go a number of ways. Even if I accept your argument that the wheels would fall off the UK economy, it's not as if its people or infrastructure would disappear overnight. The British are a resilient bunch and I would have faith we would bounce back. I have a gut feeling that the Remain crowd, illustrated by a number of posters on here, don't have their heart in the UK. If I were being really cynical I would suggest that they would be quite pleased to see the place go down the toilet.

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