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    oh dear: General seeks UK Iraq withdrawal

    General seeks UK Iraq withdrawal

    The head of the British Army has said the presence of UK armed forces in Iraq "exacerbates the security problems".

    In an interview in the Daily Mail, Sir Richard Dannatt, Chief of the General Staff, is quoted as saying the British should "get out some time soon".

    He also said: "Let's face it, the military campaign we fought in 2003, effectively kicked the door in."

    There are currently more than 7,000 British soldiers in Iraq, based largely in Basra in the south of the country.

    BBC political editor Nick Robinson described Sir Richard's remarks as "quite extraordinary".

    He said the new head of British army was "effectively saying we are making the situation worse in Iraq and worse for ourselves around the world by being in Iraq".

    The comments "directly contradicted so much of what the government had said", our correspondent added.

    Sir Richard might be issuing a "very public warning" to the next prime minister, he said.

    In the interview, Sir Richard added that any initial tolerance "has largely turned to intolerance. That is a fact."

    Sir Richard, who took on his role in August, also said planning for what happened after the initial successful war military offensive was "poor, probably based more on optimism than sound planning".

    'Not invited in'

    He said: "I don't say that the difficulties we are experiencing round the world are caused by our presence in Iraq but undoubtedly our presence in Iraq exacerbates them."

    Sir Richard told the newspaper: "We are in a Muslim country and Muslims' views of foreigners in their country are quite clear.

    "As a foreigner, you can be welcomed by being invited in a country, but we weren't invited certainly by those in Iraq at the time."

    He added: "Whatever consent we may have had in the first place, may have turned to tolerance and has largely turned to intolerance."

    #2
    Dull.
    What happens in General, stays in General.
    You know what they say about assumptions!

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      #3
      I guess this settles Tony Blair's legacy:

      "Planning for what happened after the initial successful war military offensive was poor, probably based more on optimism than sound planning.

      "Our presence in Iraq undoubtedly exacerbates the difficulties we are experiencing round the world."

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        #4
        All the political scumbags are of course lining up to rubbish his comments.

        He is speaking on behalf of his men and women - who are placed in situations such as Afghanistan and Iraq at the behest of politicians - that he feels personally responsible for, even if the politicians don't give a toss.

        What is sickening is that the politicians who create this mess then turn round and criticise the professional soldier - the type they are so willing to send to die for 'Queen and Country' - when he dares to express an opinion, as his views upset their election prospects.

        Better to occupy Westminster until a democracy is established there.

        If the guy resigned his commission and stood for parliament in blair or browns constituency he'd probably win.
        Last edited by mcquiggd; 12 October 2006, 22:51.
        Vieze Oude Man

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          #5
          It is pleasing to see that in this country top generals who are not only in service but also being at the top of it can make such comments - it is sure wrong for politicians to send army to die for dubious cause, but it is double wrong to then not care for those who got wounded there, and btw, is it just me who thinks that 90 quid tax free bonus to soldiers who fight for their lifes in Afganistan is like an insult? I mean ffs, 90 quid should be price per hour for risking ones life!

          I am certain ex-force members earn far more money in Iraq while working for private companies who in turn charge Govt, than actual regular forces.

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            #6
            Our little army boy
            Is coming home from B.F.P.O.
            I've a bunch of purple flowers
            To decorate a mammy's hero.

            Mourning in the aerodrome,
            The weather warmer, he is colder.
            Four men in uniform
            To carry home my little soldier.

            "What could he do?
            Should have been a rock star."
            But he didn't have the money for a guitar.
            "What could he do?
            Should have been a politician."
            But he never had a proper education.
            "What could he do?
            Should have been a father."
            But he never even made it to his twenties.
            What a waste --
            Army dreamers.
            Ooh, what a waste of
            Army dreamers.

            Alf J Pruffock

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              #7
              Should of a military coup, which unfortunately I consider unlikely, I'm sure the spin machine will massage this away. Expect a few government spokesmen to line up and say "while the general is entitled to his personal opinion this is not one shared by the MOD or the soldier on the ground". Either that or someone released early from prison on license will kill someone and take it off the front pages.

              If that doesn't happen, I'm sure within a few days the police will uncover a "the biggest terrorist plot we have ever faced" and arrest half of some northern town (to be released without charge quietly a month later but with some half remembered allegations of possession of child porn floating in the background to ensure they keep quiet).

              Anyway, the average hard of thinking voter knows it isn't the army paying his/her disability benefits and tax credits and/or providing a public sector non-job for them, so will keep on voting New Lie. On top of that, as soon as he goes everything will be presented as Tony Blair's fault and the government will sail on unscathed.

              Lucifer in "pessimism personified" mode.

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                #8
                Ah, I hear on Radio 4 this morning that Sir Richard Dannatt has been subjected to intense overnight pressure to "clarify his position". Apparently he now stands shoulder-to-shoulder with Tony Blair and agrees totally with the importance and correctness of the Iraq mission.

                I daresay it was pointed out to him that his pension was not guaranteed and that if he didn't play ball after that was pointed out, a reminder of Dr David Kelly would suffice.

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                  #9
                  "Should of" - Oh dear, dear, dear

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Shimano105
                    "Should of" - Oh dear, dear, dear
                    I would commit ritual suicide had I put "should of" rather than "should have" - this is one of my pet hatreds. I meant "short of".

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