UK energy future

[d000hg]

That's a shame then, we won't be able to sends millions of people to be killed in the war.

[EternalOptimist]

That's a shame then, we won't be able to sends millions of people to be killed in the war.

pacifist eh ?

well, you can be a stretcher bearer. are you strong laddie ?

[SpontaneousOrder]

This guy is pretty good.

Home Page | Center for Industrial Progress

Unfortunately I can't get the audiobook: "A moral case for fossil fuels" from audible UK. US site must have sussed me out by my debit card.

[pjclarke]

This guy is pretty good.

Home Page | Center for Industrial Progress

Unfortunately I can't get the audiobook: "A moral case for fossil fuels" from audible UK. US site must have sussed me out by my debit card.

You can get the text on Kindle for just over a tenner. You'll be aware that his viewpoint is at odds with the majority of scientific and economic work done on the issue, not least by Richard Tol who has published 200 papers on this and related topics, in contrast to Epstein's zero.

In Conversation: Roger Harrabin and Richard Tol - Carbon Brief

while you're waiting for the book https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_a9RP0J7PA

[DodgyAgent]

.. except they're not businesses really are they, they're utilities that have been privatised and thus run for quarter-to-quarter profits rather than to keep a country functioning for any length of time.

I think you'll find it will cost the government a lot more money to clean up/replace these closed industries, than the private companies save by closing them.

steel making is a business and it should operate as such. If it cannot pay its way it should be closed. There is no magic tree of money so unless you want to stump up 90% of your earnings it is better off closed. as a society we choose to heap huge costs onto business with emission laws, labour laws, health and safety laws. I am afraid we cannot have it both ways and hope to compete with Asian producers.

[d000hg]

Unfortunately I can't get the audiobook: "A moral case for fossil fuels" from audible UK. US site must have sussed me out by my debit card.

Sounds like it should be in the same section as "A case for young earth creationism" And "Hypnotise yourself rich".

[pjclarke]

Sounds like it should be in the same section as "A case for young earth creationism" And "Hypnotise yourself rich".

or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love CO2'

[SpontaneousOrder]

You can get the text on Kindle for just over a tenner. You'll be aware that his viewpoint is at odds with the majority of scientific and economic work done on the issue, not least by Richard Tol who has published 200 papers on this and related topics, in contrast to Epstein's zero.

In Conversation: Roger Harrabin and Richard Tol - Carbon Brief

while you're waiting for the book https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_a9RP0J7PA

Majority of economists are Keynesians - so thats like being concerned that the homeopathists disagree.

Majority of scientific work is done in an environment where funding is from government and disagreeing on the topic is career suicide - plus 'the majority of scientific work' has failed, as of yet, to produce any scientific evidence.

meanwhile there are several billion people in the developing world who will benefit as our ancestors did, from the economic growth fossil fuiels will bring. The mortality rates speak for themselves.

[pjclarke]

Majority of economists are Keynesians - so thats like being concerned that the homeopathists disagree.

Majority of scientific work is done in an environment where funding is from government and disagreeing on the topic is career suicide - plus 'the majority of scientific work' has failed, as of yet, to produce any scientific evidence.

meanwhile there are several billion people in the developing world who will benefit as our ancestors did, from the economic growth fossil fuiels will bring. The mortality rates speak for themselves.

So that's all of economics and most science dismissed then. Must save you a lot of time. I shall ignore anything said by Epstein because he is a Randian libertarian and thus not credible on climate change.

Why libertarians must deny climate change, in one short take | George Monbiot | Environment | The Guardian

*'the majority of scientific work' has failed, as of yet, to produce any scientific evidence.

There's oodles of it, you just dismiss stuff that doesn't fit your world view.

And it is those same developing countries that will suffer most from climate change, fortunately, as China is demonstrating, it is possible to decouple economic growth from emissions.

[LucidDementia]

There's oodles of it, you just dismiss stuff that doesn't fit your world view.

Show me some.