UK energy future

[DodgyAgent]

Because even the dumb ones would know they were full of it then.

Oxygen is a too optimistic and benevolent word to associate with something that is intended to conjure up fear.

[pjclarke]

Or because we only have a problem because when fossil fuel carbon is combined with atmospheric oxygen it produces CO2, and because reversing the process - sequestration - usually involves separating the oxygen and storing the carbon in carbonate animal skeletons, trees or other biomass, or carbonate rocks.

Sheesh.

[DodgyAgent]

Or because we only have a problem because when fossil fuel carbon is combined with atmospheric oxygen it produces CO2, and because reversing the process - sequestration - usually involves separating the oxygen and storing the carbon in carbonate animal skeletons, trees or other biomass, or carbonate rocks.

Sheesh.

Have you heard of photosynthesis?

Would it occur to you that the problem can be solved by creating more of it?

[EternalOptimist]

Or because we only have a problem because when fossil fuel carbon is combined with atmospheric oxygen it produces CO2, and because reversing the process - sequestration - usually involves separating the oxygen and storing the carbon in carbonate animal skeletons, trees or other biomass, or carbonate rocks.

Sheesh.

ooh me ribs


there you have it folks.
carbon dioxide is not a problem. It's only when we produce it that it becomes a problem

[LucidDementia]

Have you heard of photosynthesis?

Would it occur to you that the problem can be solved by creating more of it?

We'd have to plant the trees. They don't grow on their own.

Never mind that the CO2 we're producing by burning fossil fuels started out as CO2 being used by plants which fed animals both of which died and sank and became....oh wait, it looks like the planet has it covered.

Who'd have thought our help is not required.

[LucidDementia]

Can we send Gore to Gitmo now?

[pjclarke]

We'd have to plant the trees. They don't grow on their own.

Never mind that the CO2 we're producing by burning fossil fuels started out as CO2 being used by plants which fed animals both of which died and sank and became....oh wait, it looks like the planet has it covered.

Who'd have thought our help is not required.

Well, we're effectively short-circuiting the cycle that has been in equilibrium for millenia, naturally the hydrocarbons stay put on that timescale, they do not spontaneously rise to the surface and combust. But who knows, maybe James Lovelock is right ...

[LucidDementia]

Well, we're effectively short-circuiting the cycle that has been in equilibrium for millenia, naturally the hydrocarbons stay put on that timescale, they do not spontaneously rise to the surface and combust. But who knows, maybe James Lovelock is right ...

You people are SO obtuse.

We are part and parcel of that cycle. Imbecilic. Just imbecilic.

[d000hg]

A quick chemistry lesson PJ

Carbon dioxide is one molecule of carbon and two molecules of oxygen

i.e. there are twice as many oxygen molecules in that gas.

why don't you call it Oxygen pollution ?

I think you're onto a loser here EO. Let's look at a comparable example in food labelling. Salt is something which you should not ingest too much of, so food shows how much is in. But it typically shows the amount of sodium by mass, even though this comes from salt - the chlorine isn't listed though sometimes the "equivalent salt" weight is.

Of all the arguments to pick with climate science, this isn't a good one.

[EternalOptimist]

I think you're onto a loser here EO. Let's look at a comparable example in food labelling. Salt is something which you should not ingest too much of, so food shows how much is in. But it typically shows the amount of sodium by mass, even though this comes from salt - the chlorine isn't listed though sometimes the "equivalent salt" weight is.

Of all the arguments to pick with climate science, this isn't a good one.

It's nothing to do with climate science and everything to do with sloppy thinking and poor use of language.
You know the old saying from Aristotle - 'Dickwad in one thing, Dickwad in all'