Muslims and terrorism, do they just accept it?

[minestrone]

You also don't know where you got your ideas from about ISIS being the purest form of Islam.

Instead of trying to avoid the answer by changing the subject, how about going back to your earlier claims. We'd really like to know!

Well what is the purest form of being a Christian? Is it the Catholic's interpretation of the new testament? Or is it the Protesters who fully believe that the bible is the word of the lord and is literal.

ISIS take the view that the koran is to be taken literally, at every level.

Jesus never actually said the bible was to be taken literally, of course it was written after he was dead but Gabriel gave the koran to Mohammed so it is the explicate word of God.

Shall we go though the bits in the Koran about homosexuals, women, jews? Not great reading.

[SpontaneousOrder]

Morality is a concept.
You can base yours on what you read in a book, from a TV show, from a teacher, from a parent, from your own experience.

To say that basing your morality on something you read makes you a terrorist supporter is absurd.

Your concept of morality will change as your experience different things. Stanley Kubrick's "A Clockwork Orange" relies heavily on that - reprogram someone to find violence acceptable and they will commit acts of violence with no sense that their actions are wrong.

Many religious books teach about loving others and doing good. These bits tend to get overlooked by people who are looking for an excuse for their actions and attitude.

If your idea of morality isn't based in objective reality, and can't be considered to be objectively valid, then all this talk of what is good and what is bad is just flapping your gums and making unintelligible noise.

[SpontaneousOrder]

What an absurd post.

Absurd by some standard? Or is it's absurdness open to free interpretation?

[SueEllen]

Well what is the purest form of being a Christian? Is it the Catholic's interpretation of the new testament? Or is it the Protesters who fully believe that the bible is the word of the lord and is literal.

ISIS take the view that the koran is to be taken literally, at every level.

Jesus never actually said the bible was to be taken literally, of course it was written after he was dead but Gabriel gave the koran to Mohammed so it is the explicate word of God.

Shall we go though the bits in the Koran about homosexuals, women, jews? Not great reading.

Since there are Christian sects who take the Bible literally your argument is mute.

In every religion there are people who take things literally.

Luckily with Christianity being older the fanatics who use it as an instrument to do what they want and kill loads of people are mostly consigned to history.

[Elliegirl]

I've always been mystified by the idea that all Muslims need to apologise for the actions of some crazies who call themselves Muslims and say what they are doing is in the name of Allah.
In the main in any case, these criminals kill far far more Muslims than they do Westerners, so are Muslims going about their day to day business in the West essentially supposed to apologise for the criminals killing Westerners? So it's fine as long as you are killing "each other" ?

[minestrone]

I've always been mystified by the idea that all Muslims need to apologise for the actions of some crazies who call themselves Muslims and say what they are doing is in the name of Allah.
In the main in any case, these criminals kill far far more Muslims than they do Westerners, so are Muslims going about their day to day business in the West essentially supposed to apologise for the criminals killing Westerners? So it's fine as long as you are killing "each other" ?

I've always found that excuse abnormal.

It's kind of saying that if they are killing Muslims more than westerners then they are a bit less fooked up.

[SpontaneousOrder]

Since there are Christian sects who take the Bible literally your argument is mute.

Moot?

[SpontaneousOrder]

so are Muslims going about their day to day business in the West essentially supposed to apologise for the criminals killing Westerners? So it's fine as long as you are killing "each other" ?

I don't think anyone is looking for apologies. But that aside...

Should westerners care more about orientals blowing up westerners, than orientals blowing up non westerners? Is that a serious question?

[NotAllThere]

If your idea of morality isn't based in objective reality...

What objective reality would that be?

[WTFH]

What objective reality would that be?

That would be Mr Spontaneous Order's reality.

Here's the thing, moral realism would say that killing someone is bad. S.O. would possibly agree with that because it is a true statement.
But if a book suggests that killing someone is bad, then S.O. has stated that it is wrong.

How can someone claim to accept the concept of objective reality, but deny books that support it and wish to persecute anyone who learns from those books?