GoldenEye international - nice little scam going!

[WTFH]

Cheers bro. I will tell my Mum. She's the accused. Complete bollocks obviously.

Although this forum does now think she is a filthy minx...

Are you a sock puppet of AndyW?

[xoggoth]

Your IP is tied to the router that communicates to the ISP; each device that links with the router remains anonymous to the website - the website only see the router's IP address, hence why they cannot prove that it was even someone in your house.

I don't think it's that simple with dynamic IP addresses. My router has an address beginning 192, however the IP that the net sees is variable, whatismyipaddress currently shows an unrelated number beginning 86. Can the net see my actual router address?

Must be some webby experts on CUK that know all this.

[stek]

I don't think it's that simple with dynamic IP addresses. My router has an address beginning 192, however the IP that the net sees is variable, whatismyipaddress currently shows an unrelated number beginning 86. Can the net see my actual router address?

Must be some webby experts on CUK that know all this.

Can't see your 192 address, they're not routable on the internet proper, and will be natted out, but they can see your 86 address, and the ISP will log when it was allocated to you.

[TestMangler]

Although this forum does now think she is a filthy minx...

You've been on this forum long enough to know the rules

[DaveB]

I don't think it's that simple with dynamic IP addresses. My router has an address beginning 192, however the IP that the net sees is variable, whatismyipaddress currently shows an unrelated number beginning 86. Can the net see my actual router address?

Must be some webby experts on CUK that know all this.

Your router has two addresses. One will start 192.168.xxx.xxx (usually 192.168.1.254 or 192.168.0.1) the other will be the one starting 86.xxx.xxx.xxx

The first one is only used on your internal home network. The 192.168.xxx.xxx address range is reserved (by international agreement)for private addressing, that is local networks behind a router of some sort. All your local devices such as PC's phones, Tablets etc will have an address starting 192.168 allocated by your routers DHCP function while connected to your home network.

The 86.xxx.xxx.xxx address is the public IP address allocated to you by your ISP from the block of pubic addresses they own.. This will either be Static (permanent) or Dynamic, allocated via DHCP by the ISP. Either way the ISP's keep logs of IP allocation against customers so they always know which account was using which IP address. How long they keep them is another question. 6 months is about average I think.

Very simply, your router translates between the two when you access the internet from your PC on your home network. It remembers the source address of the PC (192.1.68.xxx.xxx) and the destination it requested (www.filthyminx.com). It sends that request from it's own IP address (86.xxx.xxx.xxx) and when it gets a reply it sends it back to the device on the local network that asked for it.

The guys claiming you have downloaded something will have the public IP (86.xxx.xxx.xxx) of your router, but not the private IP (192.168.xxx.xxx) of the device that it was downloaded to. They have no way of proving which device it was or who was using it at the time.

If your router was unsecured (i.e. anyone in range could connect to it) then they can't even prove it was someone in the building at the time.

[xoggoth]

Cheers for a great explanation DB!

the ISP's keep logs of IP allocation against customers so they always know which account was using which IP address

Spying barstewards!

[LondonManc]

Cheers for a great explanation DB!

Spying barstewards!

They have to - it can help place criminals at scenes and the innocent away from the scene. For example, they can prove you were logged on in Café Nero in Manchester when you were accused of doing something in Bristol.

[MrMarkyMark]

They have to - it can help place criminals at scenes and the innocent away from the scene. For example, they can prove you were logged on in Café Nero in Manchester when you were accused of doing something in Bristol.

Hot something you wish / need to share LM?

[original PM]

They have to - it can help place criminals at scenes and the innocent away from the scene. For example, they can prove you were logged on in Café Nero in Manchester when you were accused of doing something in Bristol.

They can prove that a device potentially belonging to you was logged in at Café Nero - that does not mean you were there.

[LondonManc]

They can prove that a device potentially belonging to you was logged in at Café Nero - that does not mean you were there.

Correct, but it's more part of an overall dossier of events - particularly if a phone is used in a call. It also indicates which user logged into the Cloud on that device for example.