Cant pay wont pay on TV - people getting evicted for not paying rent

[DodgyAgent]

I lived in a poor deprived area for several years. I'm involved in a group based in another such village with very high unemployment and related issues - they run community projects, etc. I know many people who work in foodbanks, money-advice centres, soup-kitchens, etc, who deal with these people day in day out or simply befriend them and ask them what they need. I've at least one friend who was previously homeless.

So I'm more acquainted with these issues than most of the people on this forum, with a few exceptions of which you are not one. I'm not left-wing either.

The point I was making is that it's easy to just say "the state provides for the poor" as an axiom, and thereby infer anyone not cared for is choosing it to be that way. But that axiom is false. Even rich contractors know the state can mess up - PAYE being taken incorrectly and having to wait for refunds, doctors losing your appointments/referrals - it's just that in our cases this is an inconvenience. When the state messes up and you can't find somewhere to sleep, that's a bit more serious.

It's pretty obvious that any system this size WILL have errors occurring regardless of your political stance by the way. Only a perfect system would mean every homeless person is catered for. And of course, the homeless people still have to know what systems are in place and how to use them... that's not something to be taken for granted.

If this is true I do not know. What I find quite appalling is the readiness with which you and your ilk like to apportion blame on the rich. The fact is that it is the public services, given 50% of the nations earnings continue to fail.

[BlasterBates]

No that's just what rich right-wingers think... along with "anybody out of work is choosing not to work".

You are either entitled to emergency housing if you have kids or housing benefit if you have no income,

If the UK threw people on the street they would all go to Germany and claim housing benefits there, but actually that doesn't happen because you can claim benefits in the UK.

I mean one could perhaps argue that some local councils should provide more hostels and temporary accomodation for the ones who have no paperwork, but that's more to do with the odd one who falls through the net.

THe UK has a perfectly adequate social services just as good as Germany or Sweden, who also have a whole load of homeless inspite of being somewhat more generous.

According to Gov statistics 1700 were sleeping rough in any one night in England. Considering the population of 50 odd million that's not bad at all.

[AtW]

Landlord didnt get a penny, was £10K or so out of pocket.

[AtW]

Best way to deal with this situation:

1. Don't be a landlord

FTFY

[BrilloPad]

BTLers have borrowed from the future. Now the future wants it back.

[BlasterBates]

"anybody out of work is choosing not to work".

At current levels of unemployment anyone who is longterm unemployed isn't prepared to do unskilled work, which is fair enough don't begrudge it.

[psychocandy]

It's not the 90s any more. A few other things have changed too

I must admit I always thought things like rent were paid direct. Seems to be a bad idea to pay to tenant first.

Give some scrote £1000 extra and say use that for your rent. Yeh right - theres the lure of booze, fags, tatoos, clothes first - as the person on the program showed.

[psychocandy]

Bad attitude. So you are saying no-one is allowed to show a bit of initiative, buy a property, make some money? Perhaps you need to move to a communist country....

[GlenW]

Bad attitude. So you are saying no-one is allowed to show a bit of initiative, buy a property, make some money? Perhaps you need to move to a communist country....

[vetran]

Bad attitude. So you are saying no-one is allowed to show a bit of initiative, buy a property, make some money? Perhaps you need to move back to a screwed up communist country....

FTFY


Its funny one of our most entrepreneurial members has a real difficulty with BTLs.