Immigration or humanitarian crisis?

[meridian]

If this is not sorted by next spring there will be 10 to 20 thousand a day making it to Europe.

It's a total shambles and again Germany and Greece are at the centre of it.

Greece don't have much of a choice, given their geographical location.

Germany, on the other hand:
"We're going to let in 500,000"
"Oh, we didn't mean all at once"
"Hey, stop coming in, would you?"
"You other countries in the way, you're not doing enough, but don't let them through to us!"

Winkers.

[SueEllen]

Yes, that's correct - the Syrian men are fleeing, and the Kurds are mocking them for it, because even the Kurdish women stay and fight.

So you are saying stay and fight on the side of one of two regimes who you detest and those aims you don't support?

It's not as simple as having one enemy to fight against you have two.

One you are suppose to fight against and the other you are suppose to fight with. However are as bad as each other in their aims and won't hesitate to kill your relations.

On the other hand if you want a homeland like the Kurds, then fighting to gain it would make sense. Though the Turkish military doesn't have a problem in killing them.

[DodgyAgent]

Greece don't have much of a choice, given their geographical location.

Germany, on the other hand:
"We're going to let in 500,000"
"Oh, we didn't mean all at once"
"Hey, stop coming in, would you?"
"You other countries in the way, you're not doing enough, but don't let them through to us!"

Winkers.

The damage that has been done to Germany's neighbours by this policy of hers is frightening

[DodgyAgent]

So you are saying stay and fight on the side of one of two regimes who you detest and those aims you don't support?

It's not as simple as having one enemy to fight against you have two.

One you are suppose to fight against and the other you are suppose to fight with. However are as bad as each other in their aims and won't hesitate to kill your relations.

On the other hand if you want a homeland like the Kurds, then fighting to gain it would make sense. Though the Turkish military doesn't have a problem in killing them.

This rambling of yours just shows the same sort of confusion that the "something must be done" brigade (usually celebrities) without having any ability or willingness to think anything through. Why? because you and your ilk of do gooders think only of yourselves and how "morally good" you all are. Sod consequences of for example encouraging more refugees to kill themselves trying to get to the EU.

[SueEllen]

This rambling of yours just shows the same sort of confusion that the "something must be done" brigade (usually celebrities) without having any ability or willingness to think anything through. Why? because you and your ilk of do gooders think only of yourselves and how "morally good" you all are. Sod consequences of for example encouraging more refugees to kill themselves trying to get to the EU.

What are you on about?

I was answering a post why a lot of Syrian men are fleeing. Oh and most of them aren't Syrian anyway...

[Jog On]

Interesting poll here:



Love the way the Washington post focuses on 22% of Syrians thinking IS is a positive influence - how about naming the article "80% of Syrians prefer life under Assad to how" or "82% of Syrians beoieve IS is a US and foreign made group"...

[minestrone]

The US and UK could have chased Assad around Damascus with cruise missiles for a couple of weeks in 2013 until he agreed to a cease fire. In doing so stopping the spread of ISIS, saving hundreds of thousands of lives and averting this migration crisis.

Labour's decision no to support military action is probably going to end up as catastrophic as going to war in Iraq.

[SueEllen]

The US and UK could have chased Assad around Damascus with cruise missiles for a couple of weeks in 2013 until he agreed to a cease fire. In doing so stopping the spread of ISIS, saving hundreds of thousands of lives and averting this migration crisis.

Labour's decision no to support military action is probably going to end up as catastrophic as going to war in Iraq.

MPs were scared of creating another Libya or Iraq plus loads of British Military coffins coming back.

The only real way to stop being drawn into any trouble was to get Assad to agree to go with free and fair elections but that wasn't going to happen.

[Flashman]

The US and UK could have chased Assad around Damascus with cruise missiles for a couple of weeks in 2013 until he agreed to a cease fire. In doing so stopping the spread of ISIS, saving hundreds of thousands of lives and averting this migration crisis.

Labour's decision no to support military action is probably going to end up as catastrophic as going to war in Iraq.

Err no.

The extremists had been fighting Assad long before that. Only a monumental bunch of idiots would have tried to bomb Assad and help ISIS.

Step forward Mr Cameron!

[darmstadt]

Have we done this: