After Osbourne's attack on IT contractors

[suityou01]

If the alternative is to go permie then I'll stick with what I have thanks. Don't we get some of this back from the higher tax band being raised and corporation tax being reduced (eventually) anyway? Also if I went back to permie I wouldn't be able to profit from the flat rate of VAT, nor would I be able to fund my little work related gadget addiction tax free as I do now.

Way too many positives for me to consider any alternatives.. unless of course Labour get in at the next election and decide to hike Corportation tax and lower the tax bands again.

Unequivocally this.

Also you get the feel good factor of paying for more nurses.

[tractor]

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Probably considerably more expensive financially as well as politically to do the means testing.

But if the alternative to benefits and credits is Universal Benefits and the significant administrative cost it will deliver, surely introducing the means tests within that framework would only have an up front developmental cost?

As with all these things, if it is too simple, they will never go for it.

[suityou01]

But if the alternative to benefits and credits is Universal Benefits and the significant administrative cost it will deliver, surely introducing the means tests within that framework would only have an up front developmental cost?

As with all these things, if it is too simple, they will never go for it.

Like the tax credits system, for example? Where we pay one set of clerks to process our tax, and another set of clerks to pay some of it back?

I believe we are the only country in the world to do this.

[tractor]

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It's good to see everyone banding together and facing the common enemy.....

You just describe how all successful governments work, divide and conquer. Works every time.

[tractor]

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Like the tax credits system, for example? Where we pay one set of clerks to process our tax, and another set of clerks to pay some of it back?

I believe we are the only country in the world to do this.

I meant Universal Credits. Clearly you don't understand how it works, we are going to get it anyway, regardless of how many countries do it, so introducing means tests for each and every benefit within that framework should be a no-brainer. (which is why I am surprised you don't get it).

In case you hadn't noticed, the days of clerks processing our tax is long gone. We have been the unpaid collectors since PAYE was introduced in 1944.

Now, back in the drawer with you.

[suityou01]

I meant Universal Credits. Clearly you don't understand how it works, we are going to get it anyway, regardless of how many countries do it, so introducing means tests for each and every benefit within that framework should be a no-brainer. (which is why I am surprised you don't get it).

In case you hadn't noticed, the days of clerks processing our tax is long gone. We have been the unpaid collectors since PAYE was introduced in 1944.

Now, back in the drawer with you.

Got it. We don't have tax clerks, but you want means testing clerks for every benefit.

[tractor]

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Got it. We don't have tax clerks, but you want means testing clerks for every benefit.

No, you haven't got it. No one is surprised there.

Now take your clerks and your false dichotomies and stick them with your straw men.

[TykeMerc]

No, you haven't got it. No one is surprised there.

Now take your clerks and your false dichotomies and stick them with your straw men.

Can he file them in the same place as his bigotry and negative quantities of truth?

From a purely selfish perspective I'm not all that concerned about the changes in taxation, they're unpleasant, but not horrific, the item that concerns me is travel and subsistence.

[expat]

Great stuff, once you have paid your education costs, saved the massive deposit for a house, and paid the tab for your parents credit card binge, you can pay your own sick pay, from your magic bean savings.

Could you please explain this "paid the tab for your parents credit card binge" for me? I honestly don't know what you're talking about here.

[expat]

Now here's a Cunning Ploy if I've ever seen one:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/david-came...4.html#ToC7JnM

Slap head must be jumping for joy over that.

There already is a savings system that you pay into when you are earning, that pays out when you need it. It's called tax.

What Cameron has here is just a plan to hive off some of the tax system and make it regressive, and not applicable to people like him.