Have we done the imminent Ice Age yet?

[EternalOptimist]

Are you trying to tell me that a giant nuclear ball of flaming plasma, close to the earth , has more impact on its temperature than 4% of 4% of a trace component in the atmosphere ???


come on, pull the other one. it's got bells on it

[d000hg]

Are you trying to tell me that a giant nuclear ball of flaming plasma, close to the earth , has more impact on its temperature than 4% of 4% of a trace component in the atmosphere ???


come on, pull the other one. it's got bells on it

Last I checked, the sun was quite a long way away.

[pjclarke]

Are you trying to tell me that a giant nuclear ball of flaming plasma, close to the earth , has more impact on its temperature than 4% of 4% of a trace component in the atmosphere ???


come on, pull the other one. it's got bells on it

But the sun does not change much. Total Solar Irradiance (TSI) is remarkably stable once you subtract the solar cycle (that's why the solar constant is called, erm, a constant). Greenhouse gases by contrast keep on rising year on year . Even a Maunder Minimum type reduction would only offset about 2 years greenhouse gas growth.

Read the paper. Regional climate impacts of a possible future grand solar minimum : Nature Communications : Nature Publishing Group

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_constant

[EternalOptimist]

You should have realised by now, that I, and many others, have absolutely zero faith in these models. So please stop quoting them.
Mother nature and direct observations of same are where the truth is. not statistical contrivences that torture the data until it would confess to anything

[pjclarke]

You should have realised by now, that I, and many others, have absolutely zero faith in these models. So please stop quoting them.
Mother nature and direct observations of same are where the truth is. not statistical contrivences that torture the data until it would confess to anything

Ah, the conspiracy theory.

All models are wrong, but some are useful. What do you use, tea-leaves?

https://andthentheresphysics.wordpre...d-adjustments/

[BlasterBates]

Tell that to Venus.

What is the atmospheric pressure on Venus?

Are you seriously suggesting we will increase atmospheric pressure by factor of 100.

Venus is hot because the atmosphere is dense.

What happened to O level physics (hint pressure temperature).

[d000hg]

What is the atmospheric pressure on Venus?

Are you seriously suggesting we will increase atmospheric pressure by factor of 100.

Venus is hot because the atmosphere is dense.

What happened to O level physics (hint pressure temperature).

And how did it GET dense?

[BrilloPad]

Ah yes. Another ice age. Like the 1970s. I remember the summer of 1976. It snowed most days. Heating on all the time.

I think the Church had some good ideas on how to treat certain so called "scientists". Pity these days they can just spout their nonsense and get away with it.

[BlasterBates]

And how did it GET dense?

Yes there was a highly developed humanoid civilisation on Venus who burnt fossil fuels.

(you see I can be green when I want to be).

What is the increase of atmospheric pressure over the last 50 years on Earth ?

[d000hg]

Yes there was a highly developed humanoid civilisation on Venus who based their energy on fossil fuels.

What is the increase of atmospheric pressure over the last 50 years on Earth ?

If you're not interested in a proper scientific discussion, just say so... you don't believe in warming whether due to humanity OR other causes so bringing in silly things like that is deliberately trying to cloud (!) the issue.