Those peace loving White Supremacists are at it again

[vetran]

Exactly. Moreover, religion is used to create fear by bad people no God could love that if a person displeases their god, they will go to hell when they die hence why they will commit atrocities out of fear of going to hell or reward of going to heaven.

FTFY

you know most of the religions are run by people, many are very bad people.

[unixman]

It's distasteful to attack religion in this case because the victims where all in a Church expressing their religious beliefs which they are free to do in the US, the perp killed for racial reasons nothing to do with religion.

Yes and I would go further. USA media now in self-flagellation mode, claiming that this crime proves the entire country is racist. It proves nothing of the sort, in my view. The shooter was very evil as were his accomplices, such as his parents who furnished the weapon. He was responsible for his actions, nobody forced his hand. He acted with great deliberation and aforethought. The US population as a whole is not to blame for this crime. South Carolina governor calling for removal of confederate flag now. Not necessary but I'm no expert on US politics.

Oh and as for Christianity, the families have publicly forgiven the mass-murderer.

[SpontaneousOrder]

Jeffrey Dahmer was an atheist who said he killed because he didn't believe there was a God to hold him accountable, but there is no evidence he actually targeted religious people for their religion.

Mao Zedong certainly applies, he considered religion an enemy of the state and brutally targeted religious people simply because of their religion, intellectuals, etc, to try to impose his philosophies.

Joseph Stalin destroyed thousands of churches and had more than 100,000 priests and nuns shot. He also was an atheist who went on a "jihad" to impose his views on hundreds of millions.

Kim Jong Il. Pol Pot.

It's ludicrous to suggest atheists have their hands clean or haven't used force and violence in the name of their beliefs.

There's a difference between killing in the name of atheism, and killing while being an atheist.
And what went on in the USSR is not killing in the name of atheism - it was removing what they perceived as a threat to their goals. It just ahppens to be that one of those threats was theism. Fuzzy line there I guess. And beside the point as I dont;t hink this had anything to do with religion, did it?


But anyway... was this guy on SSRIs too? They've been wel knows to cause psychotic tendencies and rage for a long time now. And pretty much every school mass shooter was on them.

[BrilloPad]

FTFY

you know most of the religions are run by people, many are very bad people.

Governments are also run by very bad people.

[Paddy]

Governments are also run by very bad people.

Yes, run by very bad religious people:-

The Queen = Head of the C of E, Or a least her forefathers murdered on mass.
T Blair, "God talks to me"
Bush, "God told me to invade Iraq.
and on and on...

[NotAllThere]

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The Queen = Head of the C of E, Or a least her forefathers murdered on mass. ...

Well, they were Catholic. But that really goes with SO's point about atheists and the USSR- the Catholics weren't persecuted by the crown particularly because of their beliefs, but rather their loyalty was seen to be to the pope first.

[minestrone]

Yes, run by very bad religious people:-

The Queen = Head of the C of E, Or a least her forefathers murdered on mass.
T Blair, "God talks to me"
Bush, "God told me to invade Iraq.
and on and on...

He never said that. Neither did he say the French have no word for entrepreneur.

Neither did thatcher say "a man riding a bus at 26 may count himself a failure"

It's not the problem that people believe these things, it is that they form strong opinions from them and then go on to try and form other peoples opinions based on them.

[minestrone]

America's crime stats are pretty bonkers and they certainly have a bit of an issue historically with race relations but sitting here on keyboards banging away about what they have to do to fix after reading some stuff on the internet it is laughable. As clearly witnessed by the OP claiming this was a Christian that shot the place up before the title of the thread was changed.