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Are we repeating same mistakes as 1930s?

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    #11
    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    The Enola Gay had flight radius of 2900 miles.
    The B29's were all deployed in the Pacific and by the time of the bombing missions the Japanese had very few fighters left, even less experienced pilots still alive and the approach was all over the sea. The soviets had plenty of fighters, including high altitude ones, lots of veteran pilots and a decent air defence network.

    Even if they could have assembled a number of weapons (doubtful as plutonium was a sod to get) delivery would have at best been hugely doubtful and with the Soviet military fully mobilised the consequences would have been appalling.

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      #12
      Originally posted by minestrone View Post
      Germany now has more control over Europe that it did in 1943. Greece does not negotiate it's budget with the EU, it negotiates it with Germany. Merkel is now "open to discussion" over the United Kingdom's immigration policy.

      We should have nuked Moscow, Leningrad and Stalingrad in 45.
      Churchill did not want to stop at Berlin in 45.

      We should have listened.

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        #13
        Lets suppose we had no army at all.

        Who would invade us?

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          #14
          Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
          Our defence cuts leave us looking feeble in the eyes of the world - Telegraph

          We are appeasing our enemies and making the same mistakes as in the 1930s during the rise of Nazism

          I disagree. We have a nuclear deterrent. However we are repeating same mistakes as 1920s. Gap between rich and poor is widening all the time.
          We still have more Admirals, Vice Admirals & Captains than surface vessels - 40 Admirals & 260 Captains would appear to be a tad too many for 19 ships!
          How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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            #15
            Originally posted by Troll View Post
            We still have more Admirals, Vice Admirals & Captains than surface vessels - 40 Admirals & 260 Captains would appear to be a tad too many for 19 ships!
            That old chestnut again.

            You can build a ship and train an able seaman pretty quickly, you can't magic an experienced admiral out of thin air.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Goatfell View Post
              That old chestnut again.

              You can build a ship and train an able seaman pretty quickly, you can't magic an experienced admiral out of thin air.
              But surely by the time they'd have enough ships to need that many top brass, the existing ones will have died of old age
              Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the abject worship of the state.

              No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent.

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                #17
                Originally posted by MicrosoftBob View Post
                But surely by the time they'd have enough ships to need that many top brass, the existing ones will have died of old age
                its all about having a few spare, pour encourager les autres.

                watch out they are firing admirals at us

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                  Germany now has more control over Europe that it did in 1943. Greece does not negotiate it's budget with the EU, it negotiates it with Germany. Merkel is now "open to discussion" over the United Kingdom's immigration policy.

                  We should have nuked Moscow, Leningrad and Stalingrad in 45.
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                  http://www.cih.org/news-article/disp...housing_market

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                    I'm happy to use 'we' in that context.

                    I also don't for a second believe that they could not have produced 3 more bombs in that period.
                    They could eventually but not by the end of 1945 (if my memory serves correctly!).
                    "He's actually ripped" - Jared Padalecki

                    https://youtu.be/l-PUnsCL590?list=PL...dNeCyi9a&t=615

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
                      Churchill did not want to stop at Berlin in 45.

                      We should have listened.
                      That would be unthinkable!!!
                      "He's actually ripped" - Jared Padalecki

                      https://youtu.be/l-PUnsCL590?list=PL...dNeCyi9a&t=615

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