If all these *Yes* ers love Europe so much, why don't they all ***** off and go and live there ?
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Originally posted by EternalOptimist View PostIf all these *Yes* ers love Europe so much, why don't they all ***** off and go and live there ?
“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostNo. I find it obvious that they do not give a sh*t either way.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostNot caring means you don't want a change, since change is proactive.
So let us look at your argument.
in the last referendum 64% of the eligible electorate voted representing a total of about 26 million out of 41 million eligible voters. 18 million voted to join and 8 million voted not to. That leaves 15 million who did not vote. According to your logic these 15 million would not want change which puts them onto the side of the "NO" vote. Again according to your logic this means that 23 million voted no as opposed o 18 million voting yes.
Your argument defeats itself. Firstly that the original referendum was wrongly conceived thus making our membership null and void. So the referendum we will have next (again according to your logic) should be the other way round. I.e about Britain ("proactively" as you call it) joining the EU. This would mean that anyone who does not vote (according to your logic) would be presumed to be on the side of the No vote.Last edited by DodgyAgent; 28 May 2015, 14:39.Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostNot caring means you don't want a change, since change is proactive.
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Postin the last referendum 64% of the eligible electorate voted representing a total of about 26 million out of 41 million eligible voters. 18 million voted to join and 8 million voted not to. That leaves 15 million who did not vote. According to your logic these 15 million would not want change which puts them onto the side of the "NO" vote. Again according to your logic this means that 23 million voted no as opposed to 18 million voting yes.
Your argument defeats itself. Firstly that the original referendum was wrongly conceived thus making our membership null and void. So the referendum we will have next (again according to your logic) should be the other way round. I.e about Britain ("proactively" as you call it) joining the EU. This would mean that anyone who does not vote (according to your logic) would be presumed to be on the side of the No vote.
Unfortunately it will be done wrong, and there's a chance we'll all end up worse off because of a small, vocal minority of Daily Express readers.Will work inside IR35. Or for food.Comment
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Originally posted by VectraMan View PostCan't argue with that.
Just because a referendum was done wrong in the past doesn't mean it shouldn't be done right this time. The question is not whether we should have ever been part of the EEC/EU, but whether having been part of the EEC/EU for 30 odd years we're better off leaving now. If we were looking at joining the EU now I'd be saying exactly the same: change should require a clear majority, and those that aren't interested/can't be arsed/didn't know there's a referendum/never watch Eurovision so don't think it concerns them etc. etc. should be assumed not to want a radical change that'll affect their lives.
Unfortunately it will be done wrong, and there's a chance we'll all end up worse off because of a small, vocal minority of Daily Express readers.Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Originally posted by VectraMan View PostCan't argue with that.
Just because a referendum was done wrong in the past doesn't mean it shouldn't be done right this time. The question is not whether we should have ever been part of the EEC/EU, but whether having been part of the EEC/EU for 30 odd years we're better off leaving now. If we were looking at joining the EU now I'd be saying exactly the same: change should require a clear majority, and those that aren't interested/can't be arsed/didn't know there's a referendum/never watch Eurovision so don't think it concerns them etc. etc. should be assumed not to want a radical change that'll affect their lives.
Unfortunately it will be done wrong, and there's a chance we'll all end up worse off because of a small, vocal minority of Daily Express readers.
We joined the Scout association, this quietly changed into 'Hitler Youth' and now we find we are being groomed for conscription into the Waffen SS.
This is still a valid analogy as the EU is intentionally evolving into a superstate and expansion of its powers will continue. The only thing wrong with this analogy is that the SS used to offer you a chance to choose to join the organisation and were clear what you were getting into.Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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