Why don't they just change their religion?

[BrilloPad]

And which road does another 10 years of rabid pro-immigration combined with 'giving away free tulip' lead to?

I'm all for comletely open borders, all things being equals - which they aren't. But you can't eat your cake and still have it. All ukip are guilty of is realising that irrevocable truth.

They have realized that truth. But they have been tainted with racism and misogynist traits too.

And their biggest sin is appealing to voters uniformly across the country! They need to concentrate their voters in a few areas.

[Ticktock]

Why not? You just insulted GlenW for something far less irrational.

Sorry, I get mixed up with different users on here sometimes. For a moment I thought you were one of the not-completely-thick-as-a-plank users who was capable of critical thought. My mistake.

There is a big difference between insulting and belittling and despising a strongly held religious belief and those who hold them, and insulting and belittling the hateful, hackneyed, wannabe-shocking, sophomoric, tiresome, unoriginal babblings of an uninformed cowardly troll.

I don't necessarily agree with all aspects of every religion, and I think some aspects are hateful, some religious messaging worthy of being mocked. However that doesn't mean I despise all believers of religion.
In the same way, see above about internet comments. That doesn't mean I despise all internet users. Maybe quite a lot of them, but not all.

[NotAllThere]

People can change their religion. They cannot change their colour. However you spin the argument whether they are born to it or not they pick it by choice.

I'm talking about religion as a cultural factor, not as a system. It's not really possible to change your culture: insofar as your religion is part of your cultural identity, you're born with it.

On the matter of religion vs superstition the two things are the same simply because there is no material proof that supports their views.

I've already demonstrated that you are wrong on this point, since there are plenty of non-religious people who are superstitious. Furthermore, most of what people believe isn't based on proof - they believe based on evidence. Many religious people have plenty of evidence for what they believe. The fact that you wouldn't accept that evidence is entirely irrelevant. The big bang theory is accept as true because of the evidence. It's never been proved as "true".

I think your concept of "hate" and "venom" is directed at anyone that questions or challenges these so called beliefs.

Then you haven't been paying attention. It's direct precisely at GlenW for "insulting and belittling and despising a strongly held religious belief and those who hold them". The point that is being made is that his rantings are morally no different from those of any religious bigot (or racist or homophobe). Writing off an entire section of the human race because they don't hold the same beliefs as you is a pretty vile attitude.

[DodgyAgent]

Many religious people have plenty of evidence for what they believe. The fact that you wouldn't accept that evidence is entirely irrelevant. The big bang theory is accept as true because of the evidence. It's never been proved as "true".

The.

Big bang is a theory based on scientific evidence and that is all it is. There is a difference between what is true and what is a theory.
Give me some examples of religious "evidence"

[SpontaneousOrder]

Sorry, I get mixed up with different users on here sometimes. For a moment I thought you were one of the not-completely-thick-as-a-plank users who was capable of critical thought. My mistake.

There is a big difference between insulting and belittling and despising a strongly held religious belief and those who hold them, and insulting and belittling the hateful, hackneyed, wannabe-shocking, sophomoric, tiresome, unoriginal babblings of an uninformed cowardly troll.

I don't necessarily agree with all aspects of every religion, and I think some aspects are hateful, some religious messaging worthy of being mocked. However that doesn't mean I despise all believers of religion.
In the same way, see above about internet comments. That doesn't mean I despise all internet users. Maybe quite a lot of them, but not all.

My point is that some things are worthy of derision. The fact that some silly ideas are widely held does nothing to reduce the ridiculousness of those ideas.

One man may defend such ideas, and is as such promoting evil in the world (willful irrationality is evil - as all good is a product of rationality).

Another man may point out that those ideas are evil.

I'd suggest that man A who calls out man B for being evil or foolish for the tone in which he points out the evils of such irrationality, while he himself defends or excuses evil, needs to question his own integrity.

[SpontaneousOrder]

Writing off an entire section of the human race because they don't hold the same beliefs as you is a pretty vile attitude.

That's not what he's doing though. He's writing off an entire section of the human race for holding invalid beliefs.

The difference is huge.

[MicrosoftBob]

Big bang is a theory based on scientific evidence and that is all it is. There is a difference between what is true and what is a theory.
Give me some examples of religious "evidence"

Their evidence, is that because you can't proof it doesn't exist, it exists

Hence the rise of the FSM

[DodgyAgent]

Their evidence, is that because you can't proof it doesn't exist, it exists

Hence the rise of the FSM

And FGM

[MicrosoftBob]

And FGM

[unixman]

Big bang is a theory based on scientific evidence and that is all it is. There is a difference between what is true and what is a theory.
Give me some examples of religious "evidence"

The big bang theory sounds an awful lot like the ex nihilo creation of Christianity and other faiths. A well known observation, not mine.

Personally I think the big bang theory is what happens when you give relativistic cosmologists a lot of weed.