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Who should the next Labour leader be?
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I'm not even an atheist so much as I am an antitheist; I not only maintain that all religions are versions of the same untruth, but I hold that the influence of churches, and the effect of religious belief, is positively harmful. [Christopher Hitchens] -
The point is that, although people have joked about it, there *is* a lot of ideological baggage around in Labour at the moment. Call it marxist-atheism if you want, or just Marxism (since the Lenninist interpretation of Marxism includes atheism by default). Point is, people never like ideological baggage, left or right.
Personally I prefer Groucho Marxism.Comment
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Originally posted by unixman View PostThe point is that, although people have joked about it, there *is* a lot of ideological baggage around in Labour at the moment. Call it marxist-atheism if you want, or just Marxism (since the Lenninist interpretation of Marxism includes atheism by default). Point is, people never like ideological baggage, left or right.
Personally I prefer Groucho Marxism.
" I have principles. And if you don't like them - I have others."
And very well then - I shall settle for the term "Marxism."
PS Wasn't Millibrand an Atheist ? Or should I say ... oh dash it all Im off for a game of polo - Toodles !!!
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Tristram Hunt is about the only one of them I consider palatable, though I doubt his 'patrician' background is what Labour will be after at this point. That said, most of them hail from a similar background anyway.Comment
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Originally posted by unixman View PostThe point is that, although people have joked about it, there *is* a lot of ideological baggage around in Labour at the moment. Call it marxist-atheism if you want, or just Marxism (since the Lenninist interpretation of Marxism includes atheism by default). Point is, people never like ideological baggage, left or right.
Personally I prefer Groucho Marxism.
In fact the only party with no overt ideology is the Lib Dems and look what happened to them...."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Originally posted by AlfredJPruffock View PostPS Wasn't Millibrand an AtheistOriginally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostHe described himself as an Atheist Jew (or maybe it was Jewish Atheist)."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostSo he's saying ethnically he is Jewish and religiously he's atheist.I'm not even an atheist so much as I am an antitheist; I not only maintain that all religions are versions of the same untruth, but I hold that the influence of churches, and the effect of religious belief, is positively harmful. [Christopher Hitchens]Comment
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostSo he's saying ethnically he is Jewish and religiously he's atheist.
IMO it's laudable to separate the two.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Chuka Umunna to run for Labour leader - BBC News
As someone already said, is Labour ready for a black person at the front ? Will the country be ready for a black PM by 2020?
I hope he gets the Labour post so that the destruction will be complete.Comment
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