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Who should the next Labour leader be?
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I'm not falling for that, you must be a sockie taking the piss.I'm not even an atheist so much as I am an antitheist; I not only maintain that all religions are versions of the same untruth, but I hold that the influence of churches, and the effect of religious belief, is positively harmful. [Christopher Hitchens] -
The point is that, although people have joked about it, there *is* a lot of ideological baggage around in Labour at the moment. Call it marxist-atheism if you want, or just Marxism (since the Lenninist interpretation of Marxism includes atheism by default). Point is, people never like ideological baggage, left or right.
Personally I prefer Groucho Marxism.Comment
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Excellent ! Speaking of Groucho-Atheism I rather liked this quoteOriginally posted by unixman View PostThe point is that, although people have joked about it, there *is* a lot of ideological baggage around in Labour at the moment. Call it marxist-atheism if you want, or just Marxism (since the Lenninist interpretation of Marxism includes atheism by default). Point is, people never like ideological baggage, left or right.
Personally I prefer Groucho Marxism.
" I have principles. And if you don't like them - I have others."
And very well then - I shall settle for the term "Marxism."
PS Wasn't Millibrand an Atheist ? Or should I say ... oh dash it all Im off for a game of polo - Toodles !!!
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Tristram Hunt is about the only one of them I consider palatable, though I doubt his 'patrician' background is what Labour will be after at this point. That said, most of them hail from a similar background anyway.Comment
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There is a lot of ideological baggage around in the Tories as well.Originally posted by unixman View PostThe point is that, although people have joked about it, there *is* a lot of ideological baggage around in Labour at the moment. Call it marxist-atheism if you want, or just Marxism (since the Lenninist interpretation of Marxism includes atheism by default). Point is, people never like ideological baggage, left or right.
Personally I prefer Groucho Marxism.
In fact the only party with no overt ideology is the Lib Dems and look what happened to them...."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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He described himself as an Atheist Jew (or maybe it was Jewish Atheist).Originally posted by AlfredJPruffock View PostPS Wasn't Millibrand an AtheistOriginally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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So he's saying ethnically he is Jewish and religiously he's atheist.Originally posted by d000hg View PostHe described himself as an Atheist Jew (or maybe it was Jewish Atheist)."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Finally, something good about him.Originally posted by SueEllen View PostSo he's saying ethnically he is Jewish and religiously he's atheist.I'm not even an atheist so much as I am an antitheist; I not only maintain that all religions are versions of the same untruth, but I hold that the influence of churches, and the effect of religious belief, is positively harmful. [Christopher Hitchens]Comment
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Well it's hard to think of another interpretation.Originally posted by SueEllen View PostSo he's saying ethnically he is Jewish and religiously he's atheist.
IMO it's laudable to separate the two.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Chuka Umunna to run for Labour leader - BBC News
As someone already said, is Labour ready for a black person at the front ? Will the country be ready for a black PM by 2020?
I hope he gets the Labour post so that the destruction will be complete.
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