Australian Point System for Immigration

[original PM]

I'm in favour of one unified planet with no borders and complete freedom of movement. Countries are obsolete. Borders are obsolete.

[d000hg]

Under their system the Australians get to decide the quantity and quality of immigrants.

Sounds reasonable enough to me. No wonder 70% of British people want it to. So why won't the LibLabCons make it happen?

If it's contingent on leaving the EU, which 70% of Brits don't want to do, then it's not possible as proposed. 70%+ of Brits would like to pay less tax and see more spent on the NHS but that's not realistic either.

[BlasterBates]

Everybody holds up Australia as the model.

Does that mean we will increase our immigration ?

Australia has a higher level of immigration than Britain.

Lets face it if we leave the EU and introduce an Australian system, we're still going to have the same number of immigrants, because most of the immigrants are coming over to take up jobs.

I would also challenge the premise that their immigrants are of a higher quality-.

http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Australia

As others have pointed out we have a points system anyway. I challenge anyone to prove that EU immigrants are of a lower quality than the others. The question you want to ask yourself is where does your plumber come from?

Not from the statistics that Australia has the same trends as the UK. That's because they too have an aging population with baby boomers now retiring.

[meridian]

More likely that when people live right next to people who are descendants of immigrants like the Royal Family, Boris Johnson etc, from elsewhere in the UK or immigrants themselves they realise people are just people.

Also supporting a party where the leader has German ancestors and an immigrant German wife who demonizes immigrants just makes no sense.

I don't think there's a one-size-fits-all reason here. I'm an immigrant, and people are not just people. There are economic migrants, asylum seekers, EU open border travellers, etc, and although they all have their different reasons for being here, they don't all contribute to the economy in the same way. I've lived in several countries that have points systems or other entry restrictions, and respect the way that they want to limit immigration to the truly needy (those escaping war zones) or the ones that will benefit and contribute as a net positive to the country.

I'd consider voting UKIP on their immigration policy, and some of their other policies aren't bad either, but I just can't see any of their candidates in charge of a chip shop let alone the country.

[DodgyAgent]

The media makes no distinction so why blame people?

The Daily Mail who have a long history of demonizing immigrants, including those who are escaping from certain death, doesn't make that distinction. The broadsheets are either concerned with the economic benefits for business or are left wing. The TV media doesn't have the time as they risk people switching off.

BTW why are you bothering to reply to someone who doesn't think the UK is the BEST place to live in the world for everyone?

It does not matter what the mail says. A look at the dictionary will tell you that there is a difference between "immigrant" and "immigration". The debate is about immigration NOT immigrants.

[Flashman]

Everybody holds up Australia as the model.

Does that mean we will increase our immigration ?

Australia has a higher level of immigration than Britain.

Lets face it if we leave the EU and introduce an Australian system, we're still going to have the same number of immigrants, because most of the immigrants are coming over to take up jobs.

I would also challenge the premise that their immigrants are of a higher quality-.

http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Australia

As others have pointed out we have a points system anyway. I challenge anyone to prove that EU immigrants are of a lower quality than the others. The question you want to ask yourself is where does your plumber come from?

Not from the statistics that Australia has the same trends as the UK. That's because they too have an aging population with baby boomers now retiring.

Errmm see post no.1

[Flashman]

I don't think it works properly, give it a go...

As delivered by CapGemini, EDS or Fujitisu?

Never mind, nothing to see here...

[DimPrawn]

Q:

'We want to emigrate to Australia, but can we afford to?' - Telegraph

A:

Business leaders issue last-ditch warning against Labour - Telegraph

Can you afford not to leave the UK?

[lilelvis2000]

Q:

'We want to emigrate to Australia, but can we afford to?' - Telegraph

A:

Business leaders issue last-ditch warning against Labour - Telegraph

Can you afford not to leave the UK?

Already brainwashing the kid to leave.. Mind you he's lucky as he also has Canadian Citizenship. I considered leaving him with my sister in Canada last holiday!

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

We are a much more crowded country and controls need to be stronger than the Australian system.

Bit of basic maths - you don't increase any average by adding more of average quality. Migrants increase GDP but if they increase population by the same or greater amount nobody is any better off and we just have more problems with supply of housing, schools etc. I would doubt that anyone with earnings potential of less than £40k helps us at all.

unless you are cheap labour to line the pockets of the wealthy.