Obvious common sense policy for Britain

[darmstadt]

They don't seem to have a single positive policy, it's all negative.

Still waiting to see their manifesto for the election, then you'll know their real policies...


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[Zero Liability]

But they seem to have just cherry-picked things people grumble about and cobbled them into a manifesto. "this will get the racists, this will get the middle-englanders, this will get some environmentalists, this will get some NIMBYs", etc.

The people voting UKIP might be horrified who their co-voters end up being, lots of little groups who actually hate each other

Which if you think about it, is probably likelier with the big parties. I mean all this nonsense about parties out of power being able to say whatever they like; what about ones in power or which have been in power, which deliver rhetoric about their marvellous intentions, which they inevitably forget all about (e.g. Labour on the NHS, can it even be taken seriously)? How many of Labour's or the Tories' policies are pure vote grabs, some even conjured up to grab voters who share the concerns UKIP has raised? I'm not a fan of party politics, but I am glad some competition has started to enter the fray. Some of the stuff both parties are proposing are frightfully ignorant and are nothing but ploys to gain votes, e.g. freezing energy prices. The Torygraph actually had two good pieces on this today:

'Quick fix' Labour plans a cause for concern, experts warn - Telegraph

Rarely has an election campaign seen so many economically silly ideas - Telegraph

I can only say I agree. And on the various "disaster" scenarios regarding leaving the EU, it had a reasonably balanced article not too long ago:

Is Britain better off in or out of Europe? - Telegraph

So after a hypothetical vote to leave, the main risk would be to adopt protectionist policies (as in tariffs and the like), which UKIP has little intention of doing.

The next thing UKIP should start picking up on is PR. There is virtually nothing compelling the parties to actually stick to these manifestos, particularly the ones which have the biggest shot of getting into power, because they know they won't be held to account via the voting system come next GE.

They're not perfect and I am disappointed in how they have watered down some of their own policies to become more electable (e.g. the flat tax), but I'm not going to pretend for one minute that either the Tories or Labour (or the in-betweener LDs) have much going for them in respect of their "policies", when most of what is written in these manifestos is short-termist bulltulip geared on winning the next election; the only time I take them at their word is when they say they're going to tax more. And as for the Greens, they're even shorter on good ideas than Labour, which is saying something, as I am certain their take on the basic income guarantee (their one semi-decent idea, IMO) would be to muddle it up by making it too generous. What I would really like politicians in general to do is get out of the way and stop interfering so much, but it is a self-sustaining system.

[Euler]

If UKIP had any chance of coming to power I would certainly diversify my investments and move them and myself out of the UK. It would be interesting to watch the country commit suicide. From Switzerland, Germany, the US or Singapore.

[darmstadt]

Britain lost it's common sense when they voted Tony Blair in for a second term, what makes you think time has changed anyone or anything?

[Flashman]

If UKIP had any chance of coming to power I would certainly diversify my investments and move them and myself out of the UK. It would be interesting to watch the country commit suicide. From Switzerland, Germany, the US or Singapore.

You best put your crap on Ebay and move to Germany then. All the other countries have tough immigration controls.

[Flashman]

Britain lost it's common sense when they voted Tony Blair in for a second term, what makes you think time has changed anyone or anything?

Nothings changed. We've just got Blue Labour instead of Red Labour.

[Euler]

You best put your crap on Ebay and move to Germany then. All the other countries have tough immigration controls.

I mentioned those countries precisely because I've been offered sponsored positions in all of them. You forget that multinationals make the rules not politicians.

[expat]

I think we all know how Scottish independence would've gone. That's why the English wanted them to go, and the Scots voted not to.

The Scots voted not to because the English (English politicians at any rate) panicked at the last minute when it became obvious that a Yes vote was very likely, and went up to Scotland to declare a "Vow" that things would change if only the Scots would vote No.

IOW pretty much the opposite of how you see it. But don't worry, when it is clear how little The Vow was worth, there will be a replay.

[Troll]

There will be a replay.

One can but hope

[MicrosoftBob]

Why have policies at all when the ability to produce postal votes is more important ?