General election quandary

[DodgyAgent]

Well since they never got to stay in power for a long time, my argument stands Every time either party is on the brink of pushing things too far, the other lot come in and balance things up a bit. It's not an assertion though, more a speculation/question.

It's really quite sad that you're utterly incapable of believing anyone would ever do anything for any reason other than self-interest. Especially since I thought you had a family... the concept shouldn't be foreign to you even!

Every single Greenie I know (between 5-15 depending how you interpret the label) would certainly be classed as a "nice, well-meaning person". A small sample but I wonder how many you know personally. Considering how much contempt you hold them in, it seems unlikely you have any Greenie friends.

I agree that labour act as a necessary counterbalance to the Tories. I also believe that actions speak far louder than words. The people in this world who genuinely care about others just get on with caring. they do not talk about it or seek a political platform to supposedly do good. malcolm Rifkind and Jack straw two powerful politicians that appeared to have that combination of integrity and statesmanlike credibility have been proven to be nothing more than self seeking opportunists.

There are very few conviction politicians who put their cause above themselves (thatcher was one).
Because Greenism is so overtly designed to attack objects of envy and act as a conduit for every self loathing piece of bigotry no genuine caring person would commit to the acts of deceit that supposedly give it a base of moral integrity (an honest commie would simply say "communism is best" and argue its case accordingly, whereas these revolting greens shroud their bigotry by pretending to be representing the environment)

If people think for a minute that these politicians are in it for the general good of mankind then they are fools.

[pjclarke]

Because the Greens support terrorism by saying that membership of terrorist groups should not be illegal

Does not follow, any more than saying that membership of an organisation campaigning for legal cannabis should be not be illegal means you support getting stoned.

Terrorism is already illegal, so clearly a party that condemns illegal acts, and indeed any violence, cannot reasonably be described as supporting terrorism.

[DodgyAgent]

Cos' DA attempted to smear the 'Greenies' as supporting them, was the start. Apparently this means he 'cannot make any sort of logical argument to get his point of view across'.

I dont need to smear them. Their policies have no credibility whatsoever. They are socialist and they don't work. They have no track record of competence (check out Brightons recycling record) and their representatives are either cynically duplicitous or wishy washy idealists.
To be fair the wishy washy ones might be quite nice people.

[pjclarke]

If people think for a minute that these politicians are in it for the general good of mankind then they are fools.

Most environmentalists of my acquaintance, and me myself, are interested in improving and conserving the environment for one simple reason:

Its where we live.

[DodgyAgent]

Does not follow, any more than saying that membership of an organisation campaigning for legal cannabis should be not be illegal means you support getting stoned.

Terrorism is already illegal, so clearly a party that condemns illegal acts, and indeed any violence, cannot reasonably be described as supporting terrorism.

Being a member of ISIS is different to being a member of a group calling for the legalisation of drugs. By allowing people to be a member of ISIS you are giving a platform for them to actively recruit more members. The group is bent upon the destruction of others and intolerance. Being a member of a group that supports the legalisation of cannabis is a topic that society is still in discussion about. It does not have the destructive properties of ISIS. Heroin maybe, but there is even a debate to legalise this.

It is not about principle it is about what works and what is acceptable and what is not acceptable and what needs to be debated.

[DodgyAgent]

Most environmentalists of my acquaintance, and me myself, are interested in improving and conserving the environment for one simple reason:

Its where we live.

So why does a Green agenda have to go hand in hand with a system of communism? the answer - because the real agenda is nothing to do with environment.

[pjclarke]

They have no track record of competence (check out Brightons recycling record)

Yes, why not do that? (Hint: the anti-Brighton Green council rant that you posted earlier was penned by a Brighton Labour Party activist. Hardly the most objective source. The enemy of my enemy is my friend?).

So why not check it out? Check out the fact the long before the Greens took control the city did not recycle green garden waste so will never be up in the league tables compared to councils that do, that introducing such a measure makes little sense where many people have no garden, that strikes by collection workers got people out of the habit of recycling, that grants from National Government have been squeezed….

Yeah, go on, check it out, get yourself some facts, its more fun that way ....

[pjclarke]

So why does a Green agenda have to go hand in hand with a system of communism?

It doesn't.

[pjclarke]

By allowing people to be a member of ISIS you are giving a platform for them to actively recruit more members.

Perhaps, though it is hard to picture someone bent on illegal acts being deterred from those acts simply because joining an organisation is 'banned'. And what you actually wrote is that the Greens support ISIS. That is untrue, and it is a smear.

[DodgyAgent]

Yes, why not do that? (Hint: the anti-Brighton Green council rant that you posted earlier was penned by a Brighton Labour Party activist. Hardly the most objective source. The enemy of my enemy is my friend?).

So why not check it out? Check out the fact the long before the Greens took control the city did not recycle green garden waste so will never be up in the league tables compared to councils that do, that introducing such a measure makes little sense where many people have no garden, that strikes by collection workers got people out of the habit of recycling, that grants from National Government have been squeezed….

Yeah, go on, check it out, get yourself some facts, its more fun that way ....

Excuses excuses it is pathetic