Would you want a tube driver who has epilepsy?

[SimonMac]

Given the level of automation on most underground lines I doubt she actually needs to do very much..

Thats a whole other story, the RMT are again kicking off stopping fully automated tubelines, does anyone see a pattern with unions?

[Goatfell]

Given the level of automation on most underground lines I doubt she actually needs to do very much..

True (mostly) the issue is that when their intervention is needed - it's really, really, really needed

[meridian]

Thats a whole other story, the RMT are again kicking off stopping fully automated tubelines, does anyone see a pattern with unions?

That's what their members pay them for, to retain member's jobs and salaries. Sometimes they do it well (provided the driver with epilepsy takes her meds then it's no less safe than driving a car), sometimes it's a bit iffy (trying to stop progress such as automated lines), and sometimes they completely fsck it up (going on strike to protect a driver that failed the breathalyser, ffs)

[SueEllen]

That's what their members pay them for, to retain member's jobs and salaries. Sometimes they do it well (provided the driver with epilepsy takes her meds then it's no less safe than driving a car), sometimes it's a bit iffy (trying to stop progress such as automated lines), and sometimes they completely fsck it up (going on strike to protect a driver that failed the breathalyser, ffs)

For TFL to sack her, her epilepsy must be uncontrolled even with meds. She has had 5 years to show it was controllable.

I've found people collapsed on the street with epilepsy but because it was uncontrolled even though they were on meds they were accompanied. The reason they were on their own was that the person who had accompanied had actually left them briefly to get help.

Also the last time I checked DVLA have a time period where as long as you didn't have a fit/faint/collapse with various conditions you are allowed to drive.

[NickyBoy]

Thats a whole other story, the RMT are again kicking off stopping fully automated tubelines, does anyone see a pattern with unions?

They may have a point. The DLR is a fully automated train line in London, but they ended up having to re-introduce staff to the trains to deal with the daily little problems that crop up on them.

If staff can be removed from trains completely, then replacing drivers with automated systems makes sense.

If you need to leave a member of staff on the trains no matter what to deal with problems, then its more efficient to have that member of staff also driving the train rather than waste money on an automated system.

[eek]

They may have a point. The DLR is a fully automated train line in London, but they ended up having to re-introduce staff to the trains to deal with the daily little problems that crop up on them.

If staff can be removed from trains completely, then replacing drivers with automated systems makes sense.

If you need to leave a member of staff on the trains no matter what to deal with problems, then its more efficient to have that member of staff also driving the train rather than waste money on an automated system.

You are aware that the first underground line to be automated opened in 1968 see Victoria line - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and http://www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/Vi...Line%20ATO.htm

[vetran]

If you need to leave a member of staff on the trains no matter what to deal with problems, then its more efficient to have that member of staff also driving the train rather than waste money on an automated system.

no because if they are driving then they can't be dealing with problems.

I'm all for properly automated trains which reduce risks of crashes and free the driver up to become conductor which is desperately needed sometimes.