Moslems and Charlie Hebdo

[original PM]

I really don't think that many people are really bothered about it, it was just that weeks fashionable cause on social media you must be seen following.

We can now all go back to thinking it is OK to smack someone if they call your wife a slag and not think about the hypocrisy.

But that is localised quite specific violence over a specific thing that normally does not involve death

it is not random killings based on something 1 person may have written perfectly legally which results in many people dying - some of whom had nothing to do with the magazine.

[minestrone]

But that is localised quite specific violence over a specific thing that normally does not involve death

it is not random killings based on something 1 person may have written perfectly legally which results in many people dying - some of whom had nothing to do with the magazine.

The violence is secondary, the Je suis Charlie brigade made a big deal that it OK to go around insulting anyone you want and as severely as you want. 99% of people cannot hold to that so it was all hypocritical.

I'm not saying they deserved it, but they did kind of ask for it. The management of the paper were idiots carry this on when it put so many people in danger.

[original PM]

The violence is secondary, the Je suis Charlie brigade made a big deal that it OK to go around insulting anyone you want and as severely as you want. 99% of people cannot hold to that so it was all hypocritical.

I'm not saying they deserved it, but they did kind of ask for it. The management of the paper were idiots carry this on when it put so many people in danger.

You know I cannot agree with the "they did ask for it"

anymore than a woman wearing a short skirt is asking for it

you are putting the blame on the victims

[minestrone]

You know I cannot agree with the "they did ask for it"

anymore than a woman wearing a short skirt is asking for it

you are putting the blame on the victims

That is just the reality of life, do stupid stuff and you are more likely to become a victim, better to just accept it and not do stupid stuff. If you want to get all "in the perfect society" about it then go on but you are being a complete fool.

You know if the BNP were printing these images and they all got shot the general acceptance would be that they deserved it, but because every journalist in the world was gushing emotions on print about how they are so important and they have the right to say anything they want even if it is insulting then the readers all phished their knickers as well. Complete sheep.

[d000hg]

That is not really true

There are many many devotees to many religions for a start.

Many also hold the sanctity of life quite highly also.

The family unit is something many westerners value

In fact many of the things such as freedom of speech and freedom of expression we hold very dear because many of us still remember those who died defending those rights in ww2

Which is why the CH attacks are right at the core of the values that our relatives spilled blood for about 50 years ago.

Well westerners do (or would) riot or act violently over things like abortion, etc. Many people would assault or even kill someone who threatened their family unit.

[TykeMerc]

That is just the reality of life, do stupid stuff and you are more likely to become a victim, better to just accept it and not do stupid stuff. If you want to get all "in the perfect society" about it then go on but you are being a complete fool.

You know if the BNP were printing these images and they all got shot the general acceptance would be that they deserved it, but because every journalist in the world was gushing emotions on print about how they are so important and they have the right to say anything they want even if it is insulting then the readers all phished their knickers as well. Complete sheep.

Well that's the Human condition in a nutshell.
Sheep that you can lead in the name of Religion, in the name of populist rabble rousing or clannishness. Popular movements short cut any measure of common sense in the intelligent and provide a wonderful Judas Goat to follow for the ignorant.

[MicrosoftBob]

That is just the reality of life, do stupid stuff and you are more likely to become a victim, better to just accept it and not do stupid stuff. If you want to get all "in the perfect society" about it then go on but you are being a complete fool.

Do you believe women deserve to get raped just because they're women and that's just the reality of life ?, or do you think blaming the perpetrators is perhaps more valid ?

[DodgyAgent]

The violence is secondary, the Je suis Charlie brigade made a big deal that it OK to go around insulting anyone you want and as severely as you want. 99% of people cannot hold to that so it was all hypocritical.

I'm not saying they deserved it, but they did kind of ask for it. The management of the paper were idiots carry this on when it put so many people in danger.

So speak the self loathing cowards of Britain. Satarising christianity and our own establishment is fine. We in the west are expected to "deal with it" . We do not however want to apply the same rules to Muslims even though they are part of our own country?

[original PM]

So speak the self loathing cowards of Britain. Satarising christianity and our own establishment is fine. We in the west are expected to "deal with it" . We do not however want to apply the same rules to Muslims even though they are part of our own country?

We do but we are not allowed to by the bleeding heart liberals who seem to want to put the rights of whatever group they fancy supporting to get their own name in the spotlight over the rights of the hardworking uncomplaining brit who half the time is so confused as to what is and is not acceptable to the minority groups.

It is a farce and will only stop when we say no - this is the UK and these are our laws if you do not like them f**k off.

[minestrone]

Frankie boyle mentioned a paper had pages and pages on why freedom of expression must be upheld after trying to get him arrested last year for insulting the queen.

With the sudden influx of cretinism, I'm out.