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When PWD doesnt look so good!

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    #11
    Its a good sign that you are willing to put the time in, so when you probabtion period is up you'll be made a full time permie rather than just being agecy staff like now
    Originally posted by Stevie Wonder Boy
    I can't see any way to do it can you please advise?

    I want my account deleted and all of my information removed, I want to invoke my right to be forgotten.

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      #12
      Originally posted by SimonMac View Post
      Its a good sign that you are willing to put the time in, so when you probabtion period is up you'll be made a full time permie rather than just being agecy staff like now
      No chance of that.
      Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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        #13
        Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
        Lucky for you then. Like I said, emergencies are fair game. Poor planning is not -I would agree this is where client management is important.
        Seriously, at the end of an interview when they ask if you have any questions, do you not ask;

        what's the work culture like
        what are the core times
        do they have any problems with you getting in early and leaving from say, 4pm

        Of course they are different ways of asking these questions. Its all about getting information you need to make a decision whether the job is one you are prepared to take on. IMO, half the 'problems' with hours of attendance, is that people dont ask about these at interview then complain when they cannot come and go as frequently as they think they should be able to.
        I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!

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          #14
          Originally posted by BolshieBastard View Post
          Seriously, at the end of an interview when they ask if you have any questions, do you not ask;

          what's the work culture like
          what are the core times
          do they have any problems with you getting in early and leaving from say, 4pm

          Of course they are different ways of asking these questions. Its all about getting information you need to make a decision whether the job is one you are prepared to take on. IMO, half the 'problems' with hours of attendance, is that people dont ask about these at interview then complain when they cannot come and go as frequently as they think they should be able to.
          I do yes. And in the past have walked out from one interview when they answered those questions with "we expect contractors in by 8am latest and to stay here till 6pm at least".

          And yes during this interview, shift coverage was mentioned (but I've not been asked to do this yet) as were support hours etc. They also mentioned, as most do, that things need to be fixed regardless.

          But I guess it depends what environment you work in. Surely in a support environment, then its taken as read that it all goes belly up then you can't run for the door? Surely this is what PWD means?

          What I do sometimes have an issue with is when Im expected to work late due to piss poor planning. Fair enough now and again, but if it keeps happening I will expect an offer of TOIL at the very least. PWD in my eyes means, work extra occasionally, when things out of the ordinary happen not screw extra hours out of me because you can get it for free.

          But this is the negative side of PWD IMHO. There are some clients who will say, tell you what book 1.5 for today, others will say, tell you what feel free to go home lunchtime this friday, then there are some who will say nothing and expect you in next day same time and thats the end of it. Unfortunately, contractually theres bugger all you can do.

          Current client is pretty good. In the past they've offered to let me go early as appreciation for some extra work so we'll see this time.
          Then again, int he past I've had clients where I've worked late for 2/3 nights in a row and then they've moaned when I said I'll be in at 11 cos I've got a dentist appt. This is not on IMHO.
          Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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            #15
            pwd is 'print working directory' isn't it?

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              #16
              Originally posted by stek View Post
              pwd is 'print working directory' isn't it?
              Prince William of Denmark surely
              Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the abject worship of the state.

              No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent.

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                #17
                Originally posted by MicrosoftBob View Post
                Prince William of Denmark surely
                Psychocandy Whinging Dick
                I'm not even an atheist so much as I am an antitheist; I not only maintain that all religions are versions of the same untruth, but I hold that the influence of churches, and the effect of religious belief, is positively harmful. [Christopher Hitchens]

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
                  offered to let me go early
                  Total and utter IR35 fail in that one post.

                  I provide my services and ensure things are delivered on time.... Beyond that if someone decided to tell me when I can and can't be in the officer they would find themselves trying to get another contractor up to speed once they found one..
                  merely at clientco for the entertainment

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by eek View Post
                    Total and utter IR35 fail in that one post.

                    I provide my services and ensure things are delivered on time.... Beyond that if someone decided to tell me when I can and can't be in the officer they would find themselves trying to get another contractor up to speed once they found one..
                    Does he do a reach-round?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
                      I do yes. And in the past have walked out from one interview when they answered those questions with "we expect contractors in by 8am latest and to stay here till 6pm at least"..
                      I don't believe this crap for one second. It needs a snap decision to be made to get up and walk out. Not your strong point that....
                      'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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