Permie salaries - In IT why would you ever accept them?

[vwdan]

Oh, are we doing the '40k is near poverty' thing again?

It's so cute how far removed from reality you are. Bless.

[AtW]

Oh, are we doing the '40k is near poverty' thing again?

Talking of which, what's the latest on that debt lady who had two B2Ls, restaurant, lots of debt and IT job - she used to write blog on BBC?

[lilelvis2000]

In almost any walk of life!

Except in Dentistry, Solicitor, Architect, bus driver, pilot, accountant, medical. I'd wager that IT is the most ageist profession after BBC News Presenter.

[Zero Liability]

Oh, are we doing the '40k is near poverty' thing again?

It's so cute how far removed from reality you are. Bless.

If we're talking about maximising your potential income, it may not be near poverty but I suppose the point is you could be doing better. Though I imagine 40k may not necessarily go that far if you're raising kids.

[Cenobite]

Salaries in software development suck.

Every developer worth their salt is putting in a fair amount of self-study every week just to keep the job they've got. When I was permanent it was always: "here are some new technologies we're using, we can't afford to give you training or let you learn on the job, you'll have to do it in your personal time". I wouldn't have minded doing this if it meant you got anywhere, but you do it just to run on the spot and not make any career progress. (For most people programming turns out to be a dead-end job).

My best decisions have been

1. going contracting
2. getting out of programming

[Zero Liability]

What did you change to, if you don't mind my asking?

[Cenobite]

What did you change to, if you don't mind my asking?

Business analysis: it's not been offshored to the same extent as programming yet.

[lilelvis2000]

Salaries in software development suck.

... but you do it just to run on the spot and not make any career progress. (For most people programming turns out to be a dead-end job).

My best decisions have been

1. going contracting
2. getting out of programming

Amen brother. Now to keep the kids from getting into it.

[scooterscot]

I recall graduates from our year in the mid-90's jumping on to the IT wagon like a gold rush. It's was like investing your life savings in a startup with no previous track record. Silly silly silly.