Good job they will pay our pensions.

[Platypus]

Are some of the kids born to hardworking non migrant british people suffering because half of the school budgets are going on learning Punjab?

ha ha ha! what a great post!

[darmstadt]

so if the cat has kittens in my house they aren't really kittens they are little human beings? Oh is that straw I smell?

If measuring the effects of something you have to measure against what would happen if the thing hadn't been there.

The Children of immigrants are still part of the immigration debate. Again they have been spun so the impact of a disastrous policy seems less than they really were.

the issue at hand is the recent explosion in immigration and its effects on the current state of the UK. What happened before is not the issue. Its funny how those that are pro immigration grasp at straws.

Do you stop your project meetings for bow practice or give your employer a third of your crops? Thought not but they were common practice in the middle ages.

So are we talking recent or not?

[darmstadt]

no one official will say that is part of the problem.

If we asked for this and ramped up for it I suspect most people would be OK with it. We didn't ask for it and people are seeing the effects in Education, health and housing so people are upset the official response until UKIP started winning seats was to call objectors racist.

I tell you what, send all the migrants back to where they come from and all those Brits who have emigrated have to return to the UK, would you be happy then? Fro example, in 2014, the officially registered British-born population of Spain numbered 297,229 although there is believed to be many more and how many of those returning would be able to provide and wouldn't be a drain on the state?

[vetran]

To be fair, you are arguing that people should be classified according to who their ancestors are, not who they are.

to be fair I'm arguing a 10 -15% increase in population directly attributable to immigration without public approval or planning is a bad idea.

If it were people landing from mars or being farm bred in Wales the issue is the same.

[vetran]

So are we talking recent or not?

I'm talking about recent you seem obsessed with nige's heritage.

[darmstadt]

I'm talking about recent you seem obsessed with nige's heritage.

Okay, what about his wife then?

[DodgyAgent]

Okay, what about his wife then?

What has she got to do with anything?

[vetran]

What has she got to do with anything?

its avoiding the issue the way a guilty teenager does.

[GlenSausio]

Rather than attempt to ignore the EU policy of freedom of movement, and make harder migration into the UK, why don't they tighten up the social security system?

That would have the same effect and be within the rules.

[vetran]

Rather than attempt to ignore the EU policy of freedom of movement, and make harder migration into the UK, why don't they tighten up the social security system?

That would have the same effect and be within the rules.

They don't want to stop it its cheap labour which keeps wage inflation down.