Good job they will pay our pensions.

[vetran]

You are aware that successive governments have cut back maternity and other services over the years? In fact where I live they were talking about closing down my local hospital's maternity unit or another local hospital's while were near the beginning of this current baby boom.

So you are blaming immigrants for successive governments poor infrastructure planning.

In fact in West London they closed down one of the local A&Es ignoring advice that it would impact all the other hospitals there and increase waiting times and the DM amongst others have found it has.

My wife was one of two UK born mothers in the local hospital which is huge. The Maternity area there has expanded over the last 16 years.

[vetran]

The £60000 is the exception and immigrants are now being screened.

Incidentally the number of cases is now dropping, and it is prevalent in the homeless and illegal immigrants, so unlikely that foreign professionals staffing the NHS are spreading it.

I never said it was prevalent in NHS employees, they seem to have their own problems.

Its funny we start discussing all immigration and you change the subject area to avoid admitting I am right.

How do the illegal immigrants get here considering we are an island and the flights are pre screened?

Oh of course they come across from Italy & Spain, pause at Calais(etc) and then try to jump a lorry to Dover.

[darmstadt]

I never said it was prevalent in NHS employees, they seem to have their own problems.

Its funny we start discussing all immigration and you change the subject area to avoid admitting I am right.

How do the illegal immigrants get here considering we are an island and the flights are pre screened?

Oh of course they come across from Italy & Spain, pause at Calais(etc) and then try to jump a lorry to Dover.

The question you should be asking is why do they want to come to the UK rather than other countries?

[vetran]

The question you should be asking is why do they want to come to the UK rather than other countries?

other countries have you & the French in them?

I suspect the way we pay benefits and don't send them home might have something to do with it, being English speaking is probably a draw.

[BlasterBates]

I never said it was prevalent in NHS employees, they seem to have their own problems.

Its funny we start discussing all immigration and you change the subject area to avoid admitting I am right.

How do the illegal immigrants get here considering we are an island and the flights are pre screened?

Oh of course they come across from Italy & Spain, pause at Calais(etc) and then try to jump a lorry to Dover.

So what you are seriously suggesting is, we cut all trade ties and import nothing at all from the EU ?

[vetran]

So what you are seriously suggesting is, we cut all trade ties and import nothing at all from the EU ?

No - read my posts again.

[BrilloPad]

So what you are seriously suggesting is, we cut all trade ties and import nothing at all from the EU ?

The EU would lose out more than the UK.

Mind you, I could not do with my Champagne. Can't we have an exemption for that?

[BlasterBates]

The EU would lose out more than the UK.

Mind you, I could not do with my Champagne. Can't we have an exemption for that?

...and German beer

[turbowoowoo]

You are aware that successive governments have cut back maternity and other services over the years? In fact where I live they were talking about closing down my local hospital's maternity unit or another local hospital's while were near the beginning of this current baby boom.

So you are blaming immigrants for successive governments poor infrastructure planning.

In fact in West London they closed down one of the local A&Es ignoring advice that it would impact all the other hospitals there and increase waiting times and the DM amongst others have found it has.

Why do you liberals always turn this into a racist argument. Not blaming immigrants at all, blaming the free for all immigration which does have an impact on services. this is a small island which is a very nice place to be and there are lots of not so nice places in the world where people would love to swap places with.

The problem is we shouldn't and cannot sustain open door policies. We need to be selective to who comes in, on grounds of what they can offer the UK on their arrival skills etc or where there is serious refugee problems, we do our duty and take our share.

Not all and sundry!!!

[SueEllen]

My wife was one of two UK born mothers in the local hospital which is huge. The Maternity area there has expanded over the last 16 years.

See different areas different policies and different people using the services.