Calais migrant crisis: UK police 'should help'

[DodgyAgent]

The problem with the youth these days is the same all over the world - their expectations don't meet the reality. Many of them want to start at £100k white collar jobs, naturally they can't find such jobs, so they result to moaning and blaming the immigrants. The other problem is the education system that doesn't produce the necessary skill sets. NHS has vacancies for 1000s of doctors and nurses, while the universities are spewing 1000s of graduates with degrees and skill sets that no employer is looking for - blame the immigrants I say.

But yet again, the blame culture has deep roots.

What utter garbage especially from someone who has just pointed out how immigrants claiming benefits is exaggerated.

[DodgyAgent]

I think you need to get out more, I've not met anyone that thinks they can just waltz into a £100k a year job.

Contrary to what you think not everyone wants to be a doctor or nurse either.

More importantly I would doubt if any but a few of those studying useless degrees have the intellect or diligence to be a doctor.

[The Spartan]

It's not the claiming of benefits that bothers me unless you're they're claiming without having contributed, it's more the strain on public services like the NHS, schools etc

[Zero Liability]

The EU migrants are not the problem if you read the telegraph today. the problem is with non EU migrants.

Although even that may have more to do with the dates involved more than anything else.

[darmstadt]

So just make two massive generalisations without any supporting evidence?

Well this site has quite a few jobs available, apparently 7,761, just in Essex, apparently alone: Browse Essex jobs | 1Job.co.uk, surely some people could apply for them? Then again there are 41 postmen jobs available countrywide: https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/JobS...tman&where=&q= so people could apply for them or 15 jobs for toilet cleaner: https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/JobS...jt=toilet&pg=1 or if you want something a bit more challenging, here's 521 data entry jobs: https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/JobS...a%20entry&pg=1

[the_rangdo]

In this case the immigrants flocking at Calais are there with the sole intention of crossing the channel to UK, at which point they will become UK problem, how would you react if the French just open the flood gates and let them cross?

Maybe they should be stopped long before they reach Calais in the first place

[tomtomagain]

The Pro-unrestricted migration camp is being disingenuous as they bundle all migrants up into a single figure and say "Migrants contribute X more than they consume. Therefore all migration is beneficial"

Pretend for a moment that we lived in a world where there were 10 migrants in total.

3 of them working in high-paid, high skilled jobs ( earning £50k+ ) contributing their taxes through PAYE with respected employers.

But 7 of them are unskilled ( or low-skilled ) and are working on or below the minimum wage being partially supported by UK tax payers.

Then it may be the case that the migrants are contributing to the overall economic success of the country.

However it does follow that we should not challenge or seek to reduce the impact off the "low skilled" migration.

Back in the real world ....

Low-skilled migration impacts the lives on the most vulnerable in society. It depresses the wages of the semi-skilled, for example, truck drivers, painters and decorators and shop staff.

It also removes the "entry" positions for UK workers. As an example my daughter ( 17 ) and her friends were talking about getting some part-time work. When I suggested they try at one of our local businesses the response was:

"No point, so-and-so has tried but they only hire under 16's or Eastern Europeans".

They are not "racist" ( or angry ), as anyone with teenage children will know, they are an extremely tolerant generation, but for them it is just a "fact" that the jobs that we used to do as young adults are simply off limits to them.

Of course from a business perspective it makes sense. Why hire 3 part-time 17 year old A level students when you can get 1 full-time 20 something? Which is why business needs regulating. Because business exists to fulfil the needs of society and not the other way around.

[FatLazyContractor]

So just make two massive generalisations without any supporting evidence?

What is your supporting evidence for ->

But aren't they the ones claiming benefits?

[The Spartan]

It also removes the "entry" positions for UK workers. As an example my daughter ( 17 ) and her friends were talking about getting some part-time work. When I suggested they try at one of our local businesses the response was:

"No point, so-and-so has tried but they only hire under 16's or Eastern Europeans".

They are not "racist" ( or angry ), as anyone with teenage children will know, they are an extremely tolerant generation, but for them it is just a "fact" that the jobs that we used to do as young adults are simply off limits to them.

It's exactly this that I hear about when I speak to friends who have teenage children, how else are they meant to get experience of work if no one will take them on.

[VectraMan]

It also removes the "entry" positions for UK workers. As an example my daughter ( 17 ) and her friends were talking about getting some part-time work. When I suggested they try at one of our local businesses the response was:

"No point, so-and-so has tried but they only hire under 16's or Eastern Europeans".

You don't think she's using immigration as an excuse not to try to get some part time work?