Pay squeeze worst since Victorian age, study finds

[xoggoth]

Slightly off topic, but nice to see the latest tube trains are capable of driverless operation. Way to go, replace them all by driverless trains then turn the system on and tell all those overpaid tube drivers to f* off and find a job that has some point to it.

People on the left or right are just as bad, one side rails at overpaid bankers or directors of big businesses, the other rails at benefit scroungers. In my view we should target those at every level whose income far exceeds what they actually contribute, the jobless who make no effort to find employment, the overpaid members of powerful unions, the bosses whose bonuses are not justified by company performance, whatever.

[Zero Liability]

So presumably using that argument, all IT contractors in public sector work are public servants as ultimately the public pays their salaries? I bet they don't go on strike or is that all covered by IR35

Why would they go on strike when they can simply walk away from the contract if they don't like it? Remember, no MOO. If the contractors satisfied one of the three usual criteria to be outside IR35, it'd be difficult to mount a similar argument, because these criteria are sufficient according to the current law to demonstrate they're not employees of the end client, whereas in the case of temp workers provided to the public sector via temp agency intermediaries, how could the government not ultimately be seen as their employer? It's a much stronger case of it, than the usual crap HMRC pulls to "prove" that were it not for the ltd, you'd be an "employee" of the end client. It wouldn't alter my stance if it were contractors pulling this sort of crap, albeit they have a setup that makes it that much less likely to even be necessary as a negotiating tool.

[zemoxyl]

Frankly I think anyone who has ever voted Labour should be taken outside the wall & shot.

Obviously there's something wrong with my browser or DNS. I tried to navigate to CUK and ended up on the Daily Heil instead.

[vetran]

Obviously there's something wrong with my browser or DNS. I tried to navigate to CUK and ended up on the Daily Heil instead.

No Kardassians so can't be the Heil

[darmstadt]

Ja.

Tomorrow belongs to me us.

Oy vey, deja vu! I was listening to that today and checked out who wrote the original, didn't realise its from Cabaret (although SAHB version is better)

[lilelvis2000]

Slightly off topic, but nice to see the latest tube trains are capable of driverless operation. Way to go, replace them all by driverless trains then turn the system on and tell all those overpaid tube drivers to f* off and find a job that has some point to it.

People on the left or right are just as bad, one side rails at overpaid bankers or directors of big businesses, the other rails at benefit scroungers. In my view we should target those at every level whose income far exceeds what they actually contribute, the jobless who make no effort to find employment, the overpaid members of powerful unions, the bosses whose bonuses are not justified by company performance, whatever.

About time. Vancouver has had driverless trains for 25 years.

[darmstadt]

About time. Vancouver has had driverless trains for 25 years.

Isn't the DLR driverless still? It was when I last went on it sometime back in the late 80's which makes it more than 25 years ago...

[lilelvis2000]

Isn't the DLR driverless still? It was when I last went on it sometime back in the late 80's which makes it more than 25 years ago...

I think the Vancouver system was built in 86? and is much larger than the DLR, especially now they've put is some long extensions.

But beware the ticket inspectors that hang about on the platform and at the last moment jump on the train. I've seem some quite embarrassing moments.

[lilelvis2000]

What do you expect when you have a massive welfare state with a massive promise to payout pensions regardless if the pot is empty? Bad idea that state pensions. Let people save for them themselves. If they don't to save, let them live in poverty. Shame that would hurt their polling, so we all know it will never happen.

[Zero Liability]

It's going to happen, anyway.