Is the whole country now run by Indians or what?

[Old Greg]

Generally when people are recruited to work in the UK they are given the shifts the British don't want.

Anyway part of the reason for the changes is money and the other is the pretence of complying with the working time directive.

If you give people shifts rather than just allowing them to work nights or days only you can stretch the qualified staff out and don't need to hire so many bank staff.

My experience - and it was a few years ago - was that this was British born (or very long-term) Afro-Caribbean immigrant nurses. Not sure why, but it just stood out. Not sure what you're saying beyond that, as night only nurses were seen as a godsend to other staff who didn't want to work night shifts.

[eek]

My experience - and it was a few years ago - was that this was British born (or very long-term) Afro-Caribbean immigrant nurses. Not sure why, but it just stood out. Not sure what you're saying beyond that, as night only nurses were seen as a godsend to other staff who didn't want to work night shifts.

Surely it was because it was an easyish job to get and they got to work with their friends....

[SueEllen]

My experience - and it was a few years ago - was that this was British born (or very long-term) Afro-Caribbean immigrant nurses. Not sure why, but it just stood out. Not sure what you're saying beyond that, as night only nurses were seen as a godsend to other staff who didn't want to work night shifts.

Nurses normally do 12 hours shifts that depending on the department can start any time in the day. That way the hospital can comply with the working time directive, save money by avoiding hiring agency (bank) nurses by stretching nursing coverage out to the minimum and can pretend to comply with ensuring staff get adequate experience.

[fullyautomatix]

Surely all this is because the native british are refusing to work night shifts or some shifts which start in evening. They have to filled in somehow and somebody desperate for a job will take it and most often it is an immigrant to this country desperate to build his/her life.

[SueEllen]

Surely all this is because the native british are refusing to work night shifts or some shifts which start in evening. They have to filled in somehow and somebody desperate for a job will take it and most often it is an immigrant to this country desperate to build his/her life.

Yes.

Another reason they can't get away with it is people would point out what Old Greg noticed, and that the NHS has been warned about being discriminatory.

[vetran]

Surely all this is because the native british are asking a lot more money to work night shifts or some shifts which start in evening. They have to filled in somehow and somebody desperate for a job will take it and most often it is an immigrant to this country desperate to build his/her life.

FTFY

[vetran]

Interestingly enough France which spends 17% more than the UK as a percentage (France $4,118, UK $3,405) has over twice as many hospital beds (France 6.37, UK 2.95) per 1000 people.

List of countries by hospital beds - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

feedback I have had from people who have lived in both countries during their lives the French system seems superior for general care.

[minestrone]

Don't smoke, eat healthy, exercise and above all never go near a hospital.

4 rules to a long life.

[BrilloPad]

The NHS is used to clearing up private hospital messes.

If you go private and end up in intensive care you get moved to NHS.

Plenty of cases of operations going wrong and due to lack of staff (especially overnight) a bad situation becomes far worse.

Best to get a private bed in an NHS hospital.

[BrilloPad]

Don't smoke, eat healthy, exercise and above all never go near a hospital.

4 rules to a long life.

Exercise stuffed my knee - I needed an operation to walk again.